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10-17-2015, 11:53 AM
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Name: Smokem
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Originally Posted by Sarafin
I'd be intrested on the turbo rule that would be inclusive, are you guys thinking a 3.0 bushing in front of a current 2.6 charger would be an option if 3.0 smoothbore is a deffinitly going to happen?
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I am only offering my thoughts on the turbo rules, not on the drive line, but what Pete and I have discussed;
Keeping the 2.5" bushing rule for the small frame turbos, adding a true 2.5" rule for the larger frame turbos ie; S400/GT42.
Allowing a bushed 2.6" in the same fashion as 2.5", adding a limited MWE groove protrusion 2.6" rule, and also the PPL 3.0" smooth bore rule.
These will have clear diagrams, clear rule wording, and should create a level playing field while still trying to allow as many people to pull as possible. Pete has been very accepting to any help I have offered, and I believe he truly has the puller's best interests in mind as do I.
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10-17-2015, 02:47 PM
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#42
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Name: Yellow Jacket
Title: Too Much Time
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Originally Posted by Smokem
Using the term "cheater" doesn't make sense when we are not the only ones doing it, and it is legal by the current rules.
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It is in fact a correct term.... To whoever is running them, that is not the "neck area" by my and many others definitions... Just because you guys read it differently and Haisley got Mears to go along with it, doesn't make it "not cheating." Just another's piss poor definition
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10-17-2015, 04:25 PM
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#43
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Name: Smokem
Title: Turbler
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yellow Jacket
It is in fact a correct term.... To whoever is running them, that is not the "neck area" by my and many others definitions... Just because you guys read it differently and Haisley got Mears to go along with it, doesn't make it "not cheating." Just another's piss poor definition
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PPL determined what the neck area is, not Haisley, or Eric, or myself.
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10-17-2015, 04:35 PM
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#44
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Name: jones95runner
Title: Too Much Time
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Originally Posted by Smokem
PPL determined what the neck area is, not Haisley, or Eric, or myself.
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If these turbos were not thought to be cheater turbos, why were they not available to the public?
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10-17-2015, 04:39 PM
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#45
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Name: Smokem
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I sent you a PM. This is not the place to discuss what happened in PPL this year, this is a discussion about Shootout Productions and the rules they are looking to implement.
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10-17-2015, 05:56 PM
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Name: bigstacks95
Title: Diesel Doc
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokem
I am only offering my thoughts on the turbo rules, not on the drive line, but what Pete and I have discussed;
Keeping the 2.5" bushing rule for the small frame turbos, adding a true 2.5" rule for the larger frame turbos ie; S400/GT42.
Allowing a bushed 2.6" in the same fashion as 2.5", adding a limited MWE groove protrusion 2.6" rule, and also the PPL 3.0" smooth bore rule.
These will have clear diagrams, clear rule wording, and should create a level playing field while still trying to allow as many people to pull as possible. Pete has been very accepting to any help I have offered, and I believe he truly has the puller's best interests in mind as do I.
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Good rules!
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10-17-2015, 07:57 PM
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Name: CT2500
Title: Diesel Enthusiast
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I would like to see rules locked for 3 years so it's not a pissing match at the end of every season.
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10-17-2015, 08:18 PM
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#48
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Name: Yellow Jacket
Title: Too Much Time
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Originally Posted by bigstacks95
Good rules!
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I like the proposed rules from Weston too. I kind of wish Outlaw would do something like that...
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Best Dyno 948hp and 1568ft/lbs with S366/S480
3.0 Pullin Truck, "One Night Stand"
FASS 240, ProFab Dropbox/Rev, Crower 4 disc, FDS 75, Meritor Alum 20-145, Hart's 3"in charger, Exergy 400% Sticks
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10-21-2015, 09:29 AM
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Name: 6.0PowerJoke
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CT2500
I would like to see rules locked for 3 years so it's not a pissing match at the end of every season.
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I agree with this. Also, not everyone has the means to be making drastic changes every year.
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10-21-2015, 08:52 PM
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Name: Sarafin
Title: Too Much Time
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Locking in rules world be a nice thing to have so you're not spending money just to continue to conform every year
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11-18-2015, 08:42 PM
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#51
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Name: Astaindsoul5446
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I agree also.
Are the 2.6 bushed and profusion going to be a seperate class from the 3.0 SB? Or will all three be in one class?
Thanks in advance
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12-02-2015, 09:32 AM
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#52
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Name: Smokem
Title: Turbler
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The idea was to allow the bushed 2.6", protrusion 2.6" and 3.0" smooth bore to be in the same class. The MWE restriction would not allow the larger covers seen in PPL this year, this would allow more options to the pullers while keeping the power across all three competitive.
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