What 5K GSK to get? - Competition Diesel.Com

stubz616 · 12-19-2012, 08:45 PM

Already tried searching to no avail.... Just picked up a 180 Pump from a member on here and am going to send it off to get it maxed/balanced with the 024DVs out of my 160 pump, 0 plate, and want to get 5K governor springs. I know the idle will be affected a little bit but don't want it to be annoying to start and drive especially in the winter. Pump will be going on the truck in my sig... I will also be upgrading the retainers and lock and getting a fluidampr...

So my question is, what kit have you guys used and recommend (CDS 5K, Haisley Machine 5K, DDP 5500???), also any problems you had with certain kits?

Also, would you recommend anything else to upgrade along with what i have mentioned already

Timebomb · 12-19-2012, 09:25 PM

Haisley Machine 5K, The 3 CDS 5ks Ive messed with had idle control issues and just are not a good setup. You could drive the Haisley 5ks on the street no problem. Just my thoughts. Im sure others may have had ok luck with CDS 5ks, but thats my story with them.

pierce460 · 12-20-2012, 06:46 AM

Haisley Machine is the only way to go.

zstroken · 12-20-2012, 07:07 AM

I like the haisley setup as well.

*TheNatural31* · 12-20-2012, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Timebomb

Haisley Machine 5K, The 3 CDS 5ks Ive messed with had idle control issues and just are not a good setup. You could drive the Haisley 5ks on the street no problem. Just my thoughts. Im sure others may have had ok luck with CDS 5ks, but thats my story with them.

Same story as well......

MufflerBearing · 12-20-2012, 07:39 AM

I've had good luck with cds 5k's.

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YOUNG GUNS15 · 12-20-2012, 08:43 AM

My fletcher 5k springs are a royal pain for daily driving. I've dealt with it, but is like a 5k spring that doesn't idle at 1500 and lug to 600rpm....

Bponci · 12-20-2012, 10:14 AM

I have ran both styles with no issues. Just check the overall height and make sure there dead on even. Makes a difference setting them up. This is just what i have found over the years.

Cross95 · 12-20-2012, 10:21 AM

My Haisley 5ks work great on the street.

ahale2772 · 12-20-2012, 11:20 AM

scheid 5k's get my vote... idk if they are the same ones as haisley, but they are easier to tune the my 4k's were

stubz616 · 12-20-2012, 04:45 PM

sounds like im gunna order up some haisleys.

Tate · 12-20-2012, 08:47 PM

I have had CDS 5k's in two pumps. First was a 12mm that never ran right ever since I had it benched with those springs. Idle was horrible, and power was lacking with 4k's. Overall, a giant cluster****. Other pump is a CDS 13mm. Idles great, pulls great off the bottom end. But the throttle is ridiculously touchy. To the point of not being able to hold a steady speed in anything by 5th gear, and even then its tricky. How much is the springs and how much is the 13mm, I don't know. But thats my experience with them. Next set I try will be a Haisley set.

AHall · 12-20-2012, 08:54 PM

I regretted my cds 5k's. Haisley for the next one.

wagoneer · 12-20-2012, 11:10 PM

I have Haisley Machine 5K and no problems for street use. It works even 600 rpm idling with no problem.

12-19-2012, 08:45 PM	#1
stubz616 Name: stubz616 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brewster, MA Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,327	What 5K GSK to get? Already tried searching to no avail.... Just picked up a 180 Pump from a member on here and am going to send it off to get it maxed/balanced with the 024DVs out of my 160 pump, 0 plate, and want to get 5K governor springs. I know the idle will be affected a little bit but don't want it to be annoying to start and drive especially in the winter. Pump will be going on the truck in my sig... I will also be upgrading the retainers and lock and getting a fluidampr... So my question is, what kit have you guys used and recommend (CDS 5K, Haisley Machine 5K, DDP 5500???), also any problems you had with certain kits? Also, would you recommend anything else to upgrade along with what i have mentioned already __________________ 95 RCLB Farrell Diesel Stage 5 13mm pump,Hamilton Springs,Retainers,Pushrods,Fluidampr,Steed Speed,S467.7/soon to be S488 atmo,Full Billet Trans,DPC 4 disk TC,BD Pressure Loc,Haley Speed 5x.022s,Diesel Pros Custom Cam,O-Ringed,.010 over HG,A1000,Hellman sump,625 Studs, 30* Last edited by stubz616; 12-19-2012 at 08:47 PM.

12-19-2012, 09:25 PM	#2
Timebomb Name: Timebomb Title: Bootney Lee Fonsworth Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: The Swap Meet Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,069	Haisley Machine 5K, The 3 CDS 5ks Ive messed with had idle control issues and just are not a good setup. You could drive the Haisley 5ks on the street no problem. Just my thoughts. Im sure others may have had ok luck with CDS 5ks, but thats my story with them. __________________ 95 12v 4x4 Ex Cab Auto

12-20-2012, 06:46 AM	#3
pierce460 Name: pierce460 Title: Beave Wrangler Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Brazil IN Member`s Gallery Posts: 611	Haisley Machine is the only way to go. __________________ Ryan Pierce 2002 Dodge 2500 RCLB 4x4

12-20-2012, 07:07 AM	#4
zstroken Name: zstroken Title: For $$$ your name here Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Western Michigan(by the lake) Member`s Gallery Posts: 23,151	I like the haisley setup as well. __________________ 2008 4x4 Megacab, 68RFE 97 Dodge gone.... 24V P-Pump Mafia member #1(retired) Thanks to Mumau Diesel, Goerend Transmission, Northeast Diesel Service!

12-20-2012, 07:39 AM	#6
MufflerBearing Name: MufflerBearing Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boyertown, PA Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,188	I've had good luck with cds 5k's. Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 2 __________________ 17' Mega 3500 W/Aisin, 2nd gen swap with billet S468 87' 4runner LS, NV4500, 1 Tons.

12-20-2012, 08:43 AM	#7
YOUNG GUNS15 Name: YOUNG GUNS15 Title: Im AWESOME!!!! Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Utah Member`s Gallery Posts: 7,346	My fletcher 5k springs are a royal pain for daily driving. I've dealt with it, but is like a 5k spring that doesn't idle at 1500 and lug to 600rpm.... __________________ Spence -1994 4x4 12 valve 13mm, single 475 748/1292 Fuel 872/1470 N2O -2005 4x4 12 valve CCSB 3rd gen '12-rail' 280hp

12-20-2012, 10:14 AM	#8
Bponci Name: Bponci Title: rookie Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: fortuna Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,160	I have ran both styles with no issues. Just check the overall height and make sure there dead on even. Makes a difference setting them up. This is just what i have found over the years. __________________ 2002 dodge 2500 auto (tow rig) S10 with a little turbocharged/procharged 12 valve 9.22@157mph 23t altered 12v compounded fuel only 8.30s@166mph Daughter with a badass 1st gen 12mm VE 11.64@117mph

12-20-2012, 10:21 AM	#9
Cross95 Name: Cross95 Title: Golden Eye Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: South Central, IN Member`s Gallery Posts: 81	My Haisley 5ks work great on the street. __________________ 1995 RCLB 5x14s, 5kgsk, 21*, 100 plate, 035dv, shimed rack plug, 62/68/.88 s300 billet wheel and race cover. 1991 VW Jetta 1.6L TDI

12-20-2012, 11:20 AM	#10
ahale2772 Name: ahale2772 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2011 Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,442	scheid 5k's get my vote... idk if they are the same ones as haisley, but they are easier to tune the my 4k's were __________________ 94 SCLB dually 11.3@122

12-20-2012, 04:45 PM	#11
stubz616 Name: stubz616 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brewster, MA Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,327	sounds like im gunna order up some haisleys. __________________ 95 RCLB Farrell Diesel Stage 5 13mm pump,Hamilton Springs,Retainers,Pushrods,Fluidampr,Steed Speed,S467.7/soon to be S488 atmo,Full Billet Trans,DPC 4 disk TC,BD Pressure Loc,Haley Speed 5x.022s,Diesel Pros Custom Cam,O-Ringed,.010 over HG,A1000,Hellman sump,625 Studs, 30*

12-20-2012, 08:47 PM	#12
Tate Name: Tate Title: What? Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Airdrie, Alberta Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,419	I have had CDS 5k's in two pumps. First was a 12mm that never ran right ever since I had it benched with those springs. Idle was horrible, and power was lacking with 4k's. Overall, a giant cluster****. Other pump is a CDS 13mm. Idles great, pulls great off the bottom end. But the throttle is ridiculously touchy. To the point of not being able to hold a steady speed in anything by 5th gear, and even then its tricky. How much is the springs and how much is the 13mm, I don't know. But thats my experience with them. Next set I try will be a Haisley set. __________________ '98 3500 2wd, 24v, 5 spd, p-pumped '98 2500 4wd, 12v, 6 spd, VP'd '02 VW Jetta, 5 spd. My p-pump conversion pics

12-20-2012, 08:54 PM	#13
AHall Name: AHall Title: Hobbyist Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Western Slope, CO Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,603	I regretted my cds 5k's. Haisley for the next one. __________________ -Adam Prostreet F-100 Build Thread http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for...112541&page=24

12-20-2012, 11:10 PM	#14
wagoneer Name: wagoneer Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2006 Location: Europe,Estonia Member`s Gallery Posts: 346	I have Haisley Machine 5K and no problems for street use. It works even 600 rpm idling with no problem. __________________ 97´dodge ram 2500 12V 5x18/he451ve/s475/5K governor /ATS ex.manifold/ 4" ex.system/30* timing/HD valve springs/pushrods/P-pump tuned up(800cc)/AFC mods/O-ringed block/DTT 3 disk TC/DTT valvebody/Billet input and output = melted pistons on the 1mile top speed competition