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11-07-2006, 03:30 PM
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Name: JamieWood
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Pistons?
What would be the best judgement on my piston selection? For the money should I go with a coated marine piston, or would a custom cut piston from Arias or Ross be a better bet with II's Dragon Flow's?
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11-07-2006, 03:46 PM
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Best bet would be to call II and see what they recommend. The injector/bowl combination matters more than most people think.
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11-07-2006, 04:27 PM
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the 04 - 06 CR piston is the way to go, the marine already is low on compression , you will need to cut the pistons for the cam and have them coated , Ray Little at RayMac is doing pistons now , the Stock piston is more then enough . I can get you a price on a compleat set of 8 pistons cut coated with the custom Nascar ring package that Ray has developed .
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11-07-2006, 04:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by COMP461
the 04 - 06 CR piston is the way to go, the marine already is low on compression , you will need to cut the pistons for the cam and have them coated , Ray Little at RayMac is doing pistons now , the Stock piston is more then enough . I can get you a price on a compleat set of 8 pistons cut coated with the custom Nascar ring package that Ray has developed .
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I believe he is talking about a 12V engine.......
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11-07-2006, 04:52 PM
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Name: Signature600
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Why 8 pistons, and what's the reasoning for using 24v pistons in a 12v engine??
Just asking,
Chris
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11-07-2006, 04:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joefarmer
Best bet would be to call II and see what they recommend. The injector/bowl combination matters more than most people think.
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Sound advise right there!! Give Brady a call, he will direct you to the correct bowl design for optimum performance with their Dragon Flows.
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11-07-2006, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokem
Winner winner Chicken dinner.
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FREE CHICKEN!!! Sweet!!!
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11-07-2006, 11:25 PM
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Better be FRIED!!!!
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11-08-2006, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Smokem
Mahle 155*'s or possibly the 06 CR pistons.
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I have yet to see these 06 pistons- How different are they from the 04.5 H.O.'s??
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11-08-2006, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Signature600
Why 8 pistons, and what's the reasoning for using 24v pistons in a 12v engine??
Just asking,
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He's got Chebbies on his mind, pay no attention....
He's also assuming a 12V block with a 24V head deal.
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11-08-2006, 08:13 AM
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That's what I figured...I'm still not sure of going 24v
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11-08-2006, 09:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by COMP461
the 04 - 06 CR piston is the way to go
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Why?
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11-09-2006, 12:22 PM
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Will the 04-06 CR piston fit in my 12V block? Keep in mind that this is a stock (for now) block with a 12V head.
The other question that I have is that will I be able to put a 24V head on my block.
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11-09-2006, 01:18 PM
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Name: AsTroSS
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Here is more info about 06 CR engine pistons in 12V engine: http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for...ead.php?t=2906
But I do not understand,how they work in 12V engine , because stock piston bowl is offset.
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11-09-2006, 02:07 PM
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you have to use a 24v head.
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11-10-2006, 11:16 AM
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01-22-2007, 12:19 AM
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What would be better the 04' HO, 04.5' HO, or the 06' CR? Is there any difference between then all?
Where would I go to get a set? Do they need to be a special piston, or are they good enough OEM. Of course, they will need to be fly cut.
I guess my question is the OEM the same as a custom built piece?
Need some help I would like to make a purchase soon.
Thanks,
JW
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01-22-2007, 06:00 AM
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Just a little info on a 12v I'm familier with, the injectors were custom built on the spray angle for the amount of timing and head gasket thickness.
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01-22-2007, 07:27 PM
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Sorry, I should have mentioned that i"m going to be switching the 12v head to a 24v head.
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01-31-2007, 11:21 AM
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Another question, what is a good bore size for a race motor, and when you talking about bowl size how does that factor?
Thanks,
Jw
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