The start of a race truck!!! Part one: tranny - Competition Diesel.Com

oldsmokey97 · 12-13-2007, 10:45 PM

'95 single cab 2500 2wd auto. Going to make it a race truck. Everything off of my '97 will be going on it. So, we are looking at around 600-650 hp. I know the first thing that needs to be done is tranny work.
Tranny was rebuilt not too long before i bought it but it is starting to go already with just pump mods and some ole 370's i had sitting around.

here is my list that I have down so far. Feel FREE TO ADD OR GIVE MY YOUR IDEAS ALSO.
1. Converter
2. Valve body
3. rebuild kit with alto reds and kolene steels
4. input shaft

give ME YOUR SUGGESTIONS.

Keep in mind this truck will have about 600-650hp right off the bat and probably close to 800-900 one day at about 5k+ rpms.

Thank Yall in advance.

Lance

BFD99 · 12-13-2007, 10:46 PM

what about a call to Dusty at HTS?

nathan04 · 12-14-2007, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFD99

what about a call to Dusty at HTS?

I agree, Dusty stands behind his stuff.

BigB82789 · 12-14-2007, 09:27 PM

add billet out put and you should do the intermediate if you plan on 800+ HP.

CPSimpson · 12-15-2007, 02:03 PM

Intermediate Shaft for sure....don't worry about the output, extremely expensive and not needed. I'd do the billet front clutch drum and a good redline band or equivilant, make sure you get the billet shift lever, anchor and strap too. I'd think about about a flex-plate while you have it apart, atleast a laminated.

Graphic Man · 12-15-2007, 02:16 PM

billet shafts and flex plate

oldsmokey97 · 12-17-2007, 06:45 PM

the truck will have a 5k gsk. Is there anything special i need to get so that it will shift around 4500 or so??

Lance

joefarmer · 12-17-2007, 08:40 PM

You'll need a mythical valvebody to shift that high. The heaviest spring that I've heard of is ~3800rpm.

oldsmokey97 · 12-17-2007, 09:58 PM

ok.... you have got to remember, i have had 3 standard 12v's and this is my first auto, so, im learning. Thats why i started this thread.

who makes the best valve body for full blown drag racing??

Lance

joefarmer · 12-17-2007, 10:07 PM

You're gonna like this one...

Nobody. There are companies that make one close enough that it works, but no one makes a decent, fully-tunable VB that will work 100% of the time.

One thing to consider is that you'll need to select parts from the same vendor before they'll honor warranties. (Then it's still a shot in the dark if they'll actually warranty it, but that's another subject). My point is that an automatic should be bought as a package so the expected outcome is reached. Consider this: if you're converter is slipping, is it the converter companies fault that the valve body didn't send it enough pressure? The VB company will blame the converter company and vice-versa.

Where are you located? You're best bet is to ride around in several brands of built trannys to figure out what's best for you.

oldsmokey97 · 12-17-2007, 10:35 PM

im in texas. about 60 miles west of houston

lance

joefarmer · 12-17-2007, 10:43 PM

Should be lots of Chris Strickland DTT's or MDW HotRodDiesel trannys running around there. There's a few HTS too. You're best bet is to hit a close diesel meet and start begging rides.

I htink there's a dyno day somewhere close to there coming up in Jan.

12-13-2007, 10:45 PM	#1
oldsmokey97 Name: oldsmokey97 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 744	The start of a race truck!!! Part one: tranny '95 single cab 2500 2wd auto. Going to make it a race truck. Everything off of my '97 will be going on it. So, we are looking at around 600-650 hp. I know the first thing that needs to be done is tranny work. Tranny was rebuilt not too long before i bought it but it is starting to go already with just pump mods and some ole 370's i had sitting around. here is my list that I have down so far. Feel FREE TO ADD OR GIVE MY YOUR IDEAS ALSO. 1. Converter 2. Valve body 3. rebuild kit with alto reds and kolene steels 4. input shaft give ME YOUR SUGGESTIONS. Keep in mind this truck will have about 600-650hp right off the bat and probably close to 800-900 one day at about 5k+ rpms. Thank Yall in advance. Lance __________________ COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM Bringing the BEST Together

12-13-2007, 10:46 PM	#2
BFD99 Name: BFD99 Title: The Stig Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tulsa, Ok Member`s Gallery Posts: 99,999,999	what about a call to Dusty at HTS? __________________ *The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of CompetitionDiesel.Com*

12-14-2007, 09:27 PM	#4
BigB82789 Name: BigB82789 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,997	add billet out put and you should do the intermediate if you plan on 800+ HP. __________________ 08 Dodge 01 Dodge 91 Dodge

12-15-2007, 02:16 PM	#6
Graphic Man Name: Graphic Man Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mississauga Ont. canada Member`s Gallery Posts: 963	billet shafts and flex plate __________________ 08 Mega cab SOLD01 Ram sport 4X4, Monster VP , some big injectors, full billet DTT, and big twins etc. etc.

12-17-2007, 06:45 PM	#7
oldsmokey97 Name: oldsmokey97 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 744	the truck will have a 5k gsk. Is there anything special i need to get so that it will shift around 4500 or so?? Lance __________________ COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM Bringing the BEST Together

12-15-2007, 02:03 PM	#5
CPSimpson Name: CPSimpson Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,212	Intermediate Shaft for sure....don't worry about the output, extremely expensive and not needed. I'd do the billet front clutch drum and a good redline band or equivilant, make sure you get the billet shift lever, anchor and strap too. I'd think about about a flex-plate while you have it apart, atleast a laminated.

12-17-2007, 08:40 PM	#8
joefarmer Name: joefarmer Title: MR. Supreme Overlord Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,137	You'll need a mythical valvebody to shift that high. The heaviest spring that I've heard of is ~3800rpm. __________________ brandon'); DROP TABLE Users;-- 1948 Dodge 1.5t 12v RH swap \| 99 F250 12v RE test rkt \| 11 X5 'no soup' \| 08 F250 CR RE swap \| 05 2500 CR 68 standalone firepunk.com

12-17-2007, 09:58 PM	#9
oldsmokey97 Name: oldsmokey97 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 744	ok.... you have got to remember, i have had 3 standard 12v's and this is my first auto, so, im learning. Thats why i started this thread. who makes the best valve body for full blown drag racing?? Lance __________________ COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM Bringing the BEST Together

12-17-2007, 10:07 PM	#10
joefarmer Name: joefarmer Title: MR. Supreme Overlord Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,137	You're gonna like this one... Nobody. There are companies that make one close enough that it works, but no one makes a decent, fully-tunable VB that will work 100% of the time. One thing to consider is that you'll need to select parts from the same vendor before they'll honor warranties. (Then it's still a shot in the dark if they'll actually warranty it, but that's another subject). My point is that an automatic should be bought as a package so the expected outcome is reached. Consider this: if you're converter is slipping, is it the converter companies fault that the valve body didn't send it enough pressure? The VB company will blame the converter company and vice-versa. Where are you located? You're best bet is to ride around in several brands of built trannys to figure out what's best for you. __________________ brandon'); DROP TABLE Users;-- 1948 Dodge 1.5t 12v RH swap \| 99 F250 12v RE test rkt \| 11 X5 'no soup' \| 08 F250 CR RE swap \| 05 2500 CR 68 standalone firepunk.com

12-17-2007, 10:35 PM	#11
oldsmokey97 Name: oldsmokey97 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 744	im in texas. about 60 miles west of houston lance __________________ COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM Bringing the BEST Together

12-17-2007, 10:43 PM	#12
joefarmer Name: joefarmer Title: MR. Supreme Overlord Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,137	Should be lots of Chris Strickland DTT's or MDW HotRodDiesel trannys running around there. There's a few HTS too. You're best bet is to hit a close diesel meet and start begging rides. I htink there's a dyno day somewhere close to there coming up in Jan. __________________ brandon'); DROP TABLE Users;-- 1948 Dodge 1.5t 12v RH swap \| 99 F250 12v RE test rkt \| 11 X5 'no soup' \| 08 F250 CR RE swap \| 05 2500 CR 68 standalone firepunk.com