D80 vs, AAM 11.5 - Competition Diesel.Com

roachie · 05-11-2009, 07:25 PM

Wich is stronger over all?

I have schied guts for an 80 (spool and axles) but I may be picking up a 3rd gen chassis for a puller that has no running gear.

So, lets hear it.

z79outlaw · 05-11-2009, 07:39 PM

Going through this as well right now, I guess Burkhards Axle shafts and full spools have been pretty much unbreakable from what I've heard. But Haisleys 37 splines have just as good a reputation. You can fit a bigger shaft in a Dana 80.

Stock for Stock the AAM 11.5 is alot stouter. I dont know what kind of support there is for the GM 10.5" 14 bolt, John "dmaxlover" was telling me they have the same size shafts, the 10.5 has a supported pinion, but the 11.5" doesnt. I may try to make one live if I cant find a good deal on either a D80 or a 11.5 because 10.5" 14 bolts are dirt cheap and everywhere. I cant find a 11.5 for a decent price anywhere close.

crabbelle · 05-11-2009, 09:11 PM

the diff. is the axles you NEED are 10 miles from the Chassis you WANT

and believe me i would not mind going back down to Kentucky or Tennesse with both in tow. just say the word!

tryblue · 05-12-2009, 10:44 AM

do you guys have that many problems with the 80s

jordanjames81 · 05-12-2009, 10:49 AM

stock for stock i would have to go with the AAM i have had both and split the 80 carrier in half but i put a detriot truetrac in the 80 and never had another problem. they both gna have pro's and con's

zstroken · 05-12-2009, 10:53 AM

Stock for Stock the AAM I agree. I have seen a third gen pulling truck built by scheid and it had a D80 put in it. I was told costs were the reason, as the AAM at the time didn't have the aftermarket parts available.

roachie · 05-12-2009, 10:56 AM

Im talking with aftermarket guts.

What is availible for a AAM?

roachie · 05-12-2009, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crabbelle

the diff. is the axles you NEED are 10 miles from the Chassis you WANT

and believe me i would not mind going back down to Kentucky or Tennesse with both in tow. just say the word!

I know

jordanjames81 · 05-12-2009, 11:01 AM

i there detroit has a locker out now, and maybe arb has a air locker. not sure i'll do some checking in my four wheeler mag, and randy ring&pinion. also roachie tell the girls they looks good friday nite Wha Bah, would have like to put talked at ya but i was with the industrail injection crew.

roachie · 05-12-2009, 11:09 AM

Ill tell them. The II crew was wanting them for pics but they couldnt get out of the gate to get any shirts for them to take pics in.

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skidmann · 05-12-2009, 11:10 AM

I have a 2005 dually axle sitting in my shop. I bought it to put under my 01 puller because I heard they were stronger but changed my mind. It has 3.73 ratio an open carrier. Actually I never have cracked it open to look but I was told it has an open carrier. Supposedly low (63k) miles too. It is sitting in Springfield,KY 40069.

jlibert · 05-12-2009, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roachie

Wich is stronger over all?

I have schied guts for an 80 (spool and axles) but I may be picking up a 3rd gen chassis for a puller that has no running gear.

So, lets hear it.

I'm pretty sure the D80 was rated higher than the AAM 11.5 in a test done by one of the 4x4 mags. This was discussed here about a year ago.

zstroken · 05-12-2009, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlibert

I'm pretty sure the D80 was rated higher than the AAM 11.5 in a test done by one of the 4x4 mags. This was discussed here about a year ago.

I remember an article, but I thought it gave the slight edge to the AAM?

There are spools and axles available for the AAM.

Billyram · 05-12-2009, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roachie

Im talking with aftermarket guts.

What is availible for a AAM?

Nothing.
Billy

j-rod · 05-12-2009, 01:09 PM

Parts

zstroken · 05-12-2009, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billyram

Nothing.
Billy

Pretty sure you can get a spool and axles for the AAM.

SKYNYRD · 05-12-2009, 01:56 PM

fleece had a spool for the aam at TS

Bersaglieri · 05-12-2009, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zstroken

Pretty sure you can get a spool and axles for the AAM.

I've seen the spool in person, not sure on the axles.

-Dustin-

z79outlaw · 05-12-2009, 04:26 PM

Full spools and 30 spline or 38 spline axle shafts are available for both dodge and GM AAM 11.5" in dually and SRW configuration.

roachie · 05-12-2009, 06:03 PM

I remember a thread on here where somebody bent or crushed the axle tubes on an AAM. Is that a freak thing or common?

05-11-2009, 07:25 PM	#1
roachie Name: roachie Title: Taco Master Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,133	D80 vs, AAM 11.5 Wich is stronger over all? I have schied guts for an 80 (spool and axles) but I may be picking up a 3rd gen chassis for a puller that has no running gear. So, lets hear it. __________________ 99 F250____sold (to a ninja) 01 F250____Mexican F150 04 F350____Fat boy

05-11-2009, 07:39 PM	#2
z79outlaw Name: z79outlaw Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: Union Grove, WI Member`s Gallery Posts: 411	Going through this as well right now, I guess Burkhards Axle shafts and full spools have been pretty much unbreakable from what I've heard. But Haisleys 37 splines have just as good a reputation. You can fit a bigger shaft in a Dana 80. Stock for Stock the AAM 11.5 is alot stouter. I dont know what kind of support there is for the GM 10.5" 14 bolt, John "dmaxlover" was telling me they have the same size shafts, the 10.5 has a supported pinion, but the 11.5" doesnt. I may try to make one live if I cant find a good deal on either a D80 or a 11.5 because 10.5" 14 bolts are dirt cheap and everywhere. I cant find a 11.5 for a decent price anywhere close. __________________ -Nick 08 GMC 4X4 CC/SB 6" Fabtech BMF's 98 Silverado 3500 Cummin On Strong- 12v cummins p-pumped nv4500

05-12-2009, 10:44 AM	#4
tryblue Name: tryblue Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2009 Member`s Gallery Posts: 633	dana 80 do you guys have that many problems with the 80s

05-12-2009, 10:49 AM	#5
jordanjames81 Name: jordanjames81 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: marion, ky Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,411	stock for stock i would have to go with the AAM i have had both and split the 80 carrier in half but i put a detriot truetrac in the 80 and never had another problem. they both gna have pro's and con's __________________ Hidden Valley Diesel Performance BD Diesel Performance Industrail Injection Amsoil oil Dealer AirDog Fuel Systems Farmer's Machine AutoMeter Gauges AFE Power Check us out on FaceBook Incompatible Browser \| Facebook

05-12-2009, 10:53 AM	#6
zstroken Name: zstroken Title: For $$$ your name here Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Western Michigan(by the lake) Member`s Gallery Posts: 23,151	Stock for Stock the AAM I agree. I have seen a third gen pulling truck built by scheid and it had a D80 put in it. I was told costs were the reason, as the AAM at the time didn't have the aftermarket parts available. __________________ 2008 4x4 Megacab, 68RFE 97 Dodge gone.... 24V P-Pump Mafia member #1(retired) Thanks to Mumau Diesel, Goerend Transmission, Northeast Diesel Service!

05-11-2009, 09:11 PM	#3
crabbelle Name: crabbelle Title: Banned Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Baltimore,MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,795	the diff. is the axles you NEED are 10 miles from the Chassis you WANT and believe me i would not mind going back down to Kentucky or Tennesse with both in tow. just say the word!

05-12-2009, 10:56 AM	#7
roachie Name: roachie Title: Taco Master Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,133	Im talking with aftermarket guts. What is availible for a AAM? __________________ 99 F250____sold (to a ninja) 01 F250____Mexican F150 04 F350____Fat boy

05-12-2009, 11:01 AM	#9
jordanjames81 Name: jordanjames81 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: marion, ky Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,411	i there detroit has a locker out now, and maybe arb has a air locker. not sure i'll do some checking in my four wheeler mag, and randy ring&pinion. also roachie tell the girls they looks good friday nite Wha Bah, would have like to put talked at ya but i was with the industrail injection crew. __________________ Hidden Valley Diesel Performance BD Diesel Performance Industrail Injection Amsoil oil Dealer AirDog Fuel Systems Farmer's Machine AutoMeter Gauges AFE Power Check us out on FaceBook Incompatible Browser \| Facebook

05-12-2009, 11:09 AM	#10
roachie Name: roachie Title: Taco Master Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,133	Ill tell them. The II crew was wanting them for pics but they couldnt get out of the gate to get any shirts for them to take pics in. : __________________ 99 F250____sold (to a ninja) 01 F250____Mexican F150 04 F350____Fat boy

05-12-2009, 11:10 AM	#11
skidmann Name: skidmann Title: skidmann Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bardstown,KY Member`s Gallery Posts: 196	11.5 2005 dually axle 3.73 I have a 2005 dually axle sitting in my shop. I bought it to put under my 01 puller because I heard they were stronger but changed my mind. It has 3.73 ratio an open carrier. Actually I never have cracked it open to look but I was told it has an open carrier. Supposedly low (63k) miles too. It is sitting in Springfield,KY 40069.

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SKYNYRD Name: SKYNYRD Title: "Drunkard" Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harpers Ferry, WV Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,666	fleece had a spool for the aam at TS __________________ Leonard 79 VW rabbit diesel (ALH & 4motion ) 04.5 rclb 4x4 01 & 03 VW Golf TDI 05 rcsb 2wd (in progress) ROSKOE115: "It's ain't avatar material but I'd hit it!"

05-12-2009, 04:26 PM	#19
z79outlaw Name: z79outlaw Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: Union Grove, WI Member`s Gallery Posts: 411	Full spools and 30 spline or 38 spline axle shafts are available for both dodge and GM AAM 11.5" in dually and SRW configuration. __________________ -Nick 08 GMC 4X4 CC/SB 6" Fabtech BMF's 98 Silverado 3500 Cummin On Strong- 12v cummins p-pumped nv4500

05-12-2009, 06:03 PM	#20
roachie Name: roachie Title: Taco Master Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,133	I remember a thread on here where somebody bent or crushed the axle tubes on an AAM. Is that a freak thing or common? __________________ 99 F250____sold (to a ninja) 01 F250____Mexican F150 04 F350____Fat boy