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09-15-2017, 06:17 PM
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Name: 4WheelinFreak
Title: Metal Butcher
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loss of mpg after delete
So like the title says after I had the truck deleted my mileage got worse. Gonna add I'm not driving like a 16 year old kid, just normal driving with the occasional getting after it and 15-16 hand calculated just ain't cutting it. Truck is a 13 Ram 2500 with the 68rfe and 45,000 miles, efi live 4 position tune switch 30,50,70, and 100ish hp. Also if you let it idle the exhaust smells very rich.
I'm hoping someone else has had this problem before and figured it out cause I haven't had any luck finding any similar stories.
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97 chevy 1 ton crew cab solid front axle conversion with 97 12v repower, o-ringed head, valve springs, 4gsk, air dogg II, 5x12s, 024 dvs, no fuel plate, stiff afc spring, goerend trans, poor mans triples
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09-15-2017, 06:29 PM
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Name: BRE
Title: Too Much Time
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Who's tunes
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Rick
07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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09-15-2017, 06:48 PM
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Name: 4WheelinFreak
Title: Metal Butcher
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I believe they are Kory Willis tunes, I talked to the guy that did everything and we're going to try a different tune set to see if that makes a difference.
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97 chevy 1 ton crew cab solid front axle conversion with 97 12v repower, o-ringed head, valve springs, 4gsk, air dogg II, 5x12s, 024 dvs, no fuel plate, stiff afc spring, goerend trans, poor mans triples
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09-15-2017, 06:56 PM
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Name: BRE
Title: Too Much Time
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The fact you don't know who's tunes are in it bothers me. Lol
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Rick
07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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09-15-2017, 07:06 PM
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Name: 4WheelinFreak
Title: Metal Butcher
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I know he gets most of his tunes from Kory so that's who I'm assuming these came from lol
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97 chevy 1 ton crew cab solid front axle conversion with 97 12v repower, o-ringed head, valve springs, 4gsk, air dogg II, 5x12s, 024 dvs, no fuel plate, stiff afc spring, goerend trans, poor mans triples
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09-15-2017, 07:09 PM
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Name: BRE
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Well who's tunes are for sure where I'd start.
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Rick
07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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09-15-2017, 07:26 PM
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Name: cerickson
Title: fullpull108
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I gained 3.5 mpg on my 08 with Anarchys tune.
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Mine: 2008 Dodge 3500 megacab 4x4 drw 6 SPD stick. Anarchy EFI, Flo Pro egr delete, 5" straight pipe, Edge cts2
Wifes: 2006 Dodge 3500 megacab 4X4 drw goerend auto, 4 inch straight pipe, S&B cai, FASS 150 pump, EFI live by Anarchy
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09-15-2017, 08:56 PM
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Name: Chris Tobin
Title: Too Much Time
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In theory any improvement in efficiency will yield more power and it is what we do with that more power that makes a difference... If you drive exactly the same after making improvements you will generally see good MPG improvements. If you get drunk on the additional power you will see losses...
In your case, could be something with the tuning or another issue, rarely have I heard of that much of a loss...
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09-15-2017, 11:28 PM
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Name: INTHERED
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Did you take the valve in intake out or remove gears I have seen them stick closed then open later and cause issues like that
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09-16-2017, 06:42 PM
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Name: Cacciatore
Title: Green Behind the Ears
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Originally Posted by INTHERED
Did you take the valve in intake out or remove gears I have seen them stick closed then open later and cause issues like that
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Throttle valve might not be a bad place to check real quick. If you remove the cold side charge pipe, you should be able to feel the butterfly pretty easily.
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09-17-2017, 03:41 AM
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Name: RyeThomas
Title: Green Behind the Ears
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The 13 up SCR trucks don't see near the gain when deleted vs the non SCR EGR/DPF only trucks. The SCR trucks run less active regens vs say my 12 that regend all the damn time and chugged fuel while doing so. Give it some time and a larger sample size/more miles.
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09-18-2017, 08:16 AM
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Name: 4WheelinFreak
Title: Metal Butcher
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With the tunes I have and the truck being bone stock the power difference doesn't quite have the "wow" factor that some of my other trucks have so I don't really have a need to get after it.
No smoke at idle or normal acceleration.
I'm sorry if I sound like a noob but this is the newest truck I've ever owned and the only one I've had someone else work on so bear with me when I ask "where is the throttle valve located" lol
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97 chevy 1 ton crew cab solid front axle conversion with 97 12v repower, o-ringed head, valve springs, 4gsk, air dogg II, 5x12s, 024 dvs, no fuel plate, stiff afc spring, goerend trans, poor mans triples
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09-18-2017, 09:36 AM
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Name: JWhite
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Drivers side. It's in the giant aluminum elbow that goes into the engine.
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09-18-2017, 11:50 AM
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Name: DDually
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JWhite
Drivers side. It's in the giant aluminum elbow that goes into the engine.
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Just before the giant aluminum elbow.
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09-18-2017, 12:33 PM
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Name: CorneliusRox
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If I understand correctly, it shuts off the intake a bit (like a gasser) to create a vacuum for the EGR gasses to be sucked into the intake.
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09-18-2017, 03:38 PM
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Name: Toolman
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
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I am running one of Ryan Millikan's ( Hardway ) delete efi tunes in my 2011 and did a throttle valve delete and picked up 4 mpgs highway and also 4 when I tow my trailer.
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Last edited by Toolman; 09-18-2017 at 03:39 PM.
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09-19-2017, 10:04 AM
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Name: JWhite
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DDually
Just before the giant aluminum elbow.
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They are literally bolted together.
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GMC with a LiLLY
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09-19-2017, 11:03 PM
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Name: diesel_importer
Title: Too Much Time
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I can't see how a throttle valve delete will pick up much.
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01 QCSB 2WD AUTO: Redline/Smarty, Monster VP, 6x.013, S467 FMW, Goerend Trans, Caltracs.
Fuel only - 11.85 @ 114, 50 Shot - 11.58 @ 116 w/ 1.69 60'
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09-20-2017, 02:23 PM
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Name: diesel_importer
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Lol! Then the Bay Area modules with 10 foot of harness.
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01 QCSB 2WD AUTO: Redline/Smarty, Monster VP, 6x.013, S467 FMW, Goerend Trans, Caltracs.
Fuel only - 11.85 @ 114, 50 Shot - 11.58 @ 116 w/ 1.69 60'
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