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03-10-2009, 07:55 AM
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Name: LOGANSTANFORTH
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F-Superduty Dana 80...
is there a way to convert a F-Superduty 37 spline 10 lug dana 80 to a 8 lug........i know we had the discussion awhile back but couldnt find the thread........any help is greatly appreciated, oh and is there a way to run 4.10's in them........thanks..
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03-10-2009, 08:07 AM
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I am sure you could run 4.10's in them.
What is the diameter of the axle hub? That might be your first obstacle.
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03-10-2009, 08:57 AM
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i couldnt tell you off hand, im in iraq and im trying to figure this out for a buddy.....
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03-10-2009, 09:01 AM
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Name: brushpuller
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Not realy... The 10 lug d-80's hub/bearings is bigger then the 8 lug hub, so no switching there. About the easiest way is to have a custom set of wheels made that are 10 lug and has a bigger center hole (by about 1/2 inch) so the wheel will go over the hub. Yes you can use 4.10's, but make sure the 4.10's are for the year of your ford d-80...cause there are 2 different pinion bearing.
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03-10-2009, 09:07 AM
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hmmmm thanks, it was going under his 79 F350 gas pulling truck cause he broke the pinion in his 10.25.......and i was going to take the 5.13 gears and run them when i get a dana 80 but im thinking about actually running a complete 37 spline disk brake rear under my pulling truck and just having a set of wheels made for the rear and getting factory ford dually 10 lug adapters for the front since i already got the full 35 spline EMS kit....
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03-10-2009, 09:34 AM
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That will work! Thats a lot easier then the way i did it. I took a dodge housing and machined and redrilled the 37 spline axle shaft flange to fit the 8 lug hub.
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03-10-2009, 01:31 PM
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he isnt gonna want to hear that but to make him feel better i may just trade him even up if i can get a cheap dana 80, will the ford 37 spline axles fit the scheid spool???? or are their axles got a bigger diameter......
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03-10-2009, 01:55 PM
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D80 R&p Are All The Same The Only Diff. Is That 99&up Ford D80 Use A Diff. Pinion Bearing.
The Stock 37 Sline Axles Should Work In A Spool But Why Would You Put A Spool In And Not Upgrade Axles Its Much Cheaper To Weld Up The Open Carrier
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03-10-2009, 02:17 PM
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are 97 fsuperduty has had 4.63's 3.73's and now 4.10's in it
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03-10-2009, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LOGANSTANFORTH
he isnt gonna want to hear that but to make him feel better i may just trade him even up if i can get a cheap dana 80, will the ford 37 spline axles fit the scheid spool???? or are their axles got a bigger diameter......
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Yeah i think they will work ! But just weld it!!!
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03-10-2009, 03:03 PM
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Watch your rules some places say 1 ton or less for drivetrain parts.
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03-11-2009, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by PTPULLINCHASSIS
D80 R&p Are All The Same The Only Diff. Is That 99&up Ford D80 Use A Diff. Pinion Bearing.
The Stock 37 Sline Axles Should Work In A Spool But Why Would You Put A Spool In And Not Upgrade Axles Its Much Cheaper To Weld Up The Open Carrier
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I planned on welding the carrier, but i figured that if later on i could by the spool then on down the road the axles it wouldnt be such a kick to the wallet
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are 97 fsuperduty has had 4.63's 3.73's and now 4.10's in it
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thanks for the input house
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Yeah i think they will work ! But just weld it!!!
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i will at first
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Watch your rules some places say 1 ton or less for drivetrain parts.
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i was going to ask some of the sanctioning bodies about that cause i think they should be allowed and here is my reasoning on that......
1. Scheid spool and axles are several thousand and you can get these for a few hundred......arent we all trying to save a few bucks these days......
2. your using FACTORY truck parts under the truck.....
3. i want too see someone prove to me that a factory ford 10 lug 80 is stronger than a dodge 80 with Scheid spool and axles or a AAM axle with Tony Burkhardt's spool and axles (obviously it isnt)......
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03-11-2009, 10:46 AM
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Watch your rules some places say 1 ton or less for drivetrain parts.
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HE WILL BE FINE HERE IN OHIO AS WELL AS MOST OTHER PLACES. A D80 IS AVAILABLE IN 1 TON TRUCKS. THE RULES DON'T HAVE ANY RESTRICTION ON AXLE SHAFT SIZES OR HUBS.
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03-12-2009, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by PTPULLINCHASSIS
HE WILL BE FINE HERE IN OHIO AS WELL AS MOST OTHER PLACES. A D80 IS AVAILABLE IN 1 TON TRUCKS. THE RULES DON'T HAVE ANY RESTRICTION ON AXLE SHAFT SIZES OR HUBS.
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Good point Jason but god forbid if i showed up with tires too tall, they will DQ me for that, we learned that the hard way......
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03-12-2009, 09:37 PM
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Good point Jason but god forbid if i showed up with tires too tall, they will DQ me for that, we learned that the hard way......
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WHAT WE DON'T HAVE A TIRE SIZE LIMIT IN THE DIESEL CLASSES
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03-13-2009, 12:27 AM
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WHAT WE DON'T HAVE A TIRE SIZE LIMIT IN THE DIESEL CLASSES
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the day at the gun club when i was cussing because we out booted out of the gas class because we had 35 inch tires on the truck, and not a single person said anything about it til we got there (2 hour drive).......i was justmaking reference to stupid rules in general......
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03-13-2009, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by LOGANSTANFORTH
the day at the gun club when i was cussing because we out booted out of the gas class because we had 35 inch tires on the truck, and not a single person said anything about it til we got there (2 hour drive).......i was justmaking reference to stupid rules in general......
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YEP THATS WHY I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO W/ THE GUN CLUB PULLS....THEY LIKE TO CHANGE THE RULES AROUND A LITTLE BIT AND THEN CAN'T FIQURE OUT WHY NOBODY SHOWS UP ANYMORE.
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03-14-2009, 02:23 AM
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im looking for a dana 80 right now, hopefully i can find one, im just going to move the spring pads and have a driveshaft made then ill take the carrier to a shop to be welded......a friend of mine has one already setup with 5.13's so i may just try to buy his off him.......
does anyone build a Slip Yoke Eliminator for the dodge trucks yet????
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03-14-2009, 09:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LOGANSTANFORTH
im looking for a dana 80 right now, hopefully i can find one, im just going to move the spring pads and have a driveshaft made then ill take the carrier to a shop to be welded......a friend of mine has one already setup with 5.13's so i may just try to buy his off him.......
does anyone build a Slip Yoke Eliminator for the dodge trucks yet????
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I HAVE 2 OR 3 D80'S THAT I WAS GOING TO BUILD UP AND SELL...LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU WANT AND I CAN WORK YOU UP A PRICE.
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03-15-2009, 12:04 AM
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I HAVE 2 OR 3 D80'S THAT I WAS GOING TO BUILD UP AND SELL...LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU WANT AND I CAN WORK YOU UP A PRICE.
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i need the spring pads 2nd gen dodge width, factory WMS to WMS width, 5.13 gears, welded carrier.....
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