Testing The New Hamilton 181/210 Cam - Competition Diesel.Com

*cummins724* · 01-19-2011, 10:51 AM

I am still running a stock cam in my truck, yes bone stock. I was talking to Ryan at Hamilton Cams today about a customers truck, when the conversation about the new 181/210 cam came up. Ryan said that I will notice a huge gain blah, blah, blah. I offered to test one for him with dyno results and we made a deal. Today he shipped out a cam & the new 110# springs my way. I'm gonna try to get on a dyno soon to get my numbers with a bone stock cam. I will be changing absolutely nothing but the cam and springs before returning to the same dyno. What tests would you guys like to see so that I can start collecting data? Ofcourse I'll be towing my 18k# trailer on the same course for one test.

goosekiller · 01-19-2011, 10:56 AM

Curious to see the results i was thinking about purchasing one of these cams when my engine gets rebuilt in a month or so.

Big Swole · 01-19-2011, 11:03 AM

Same Day?

Approx. Same Temps?

Same Dyno?

*cummins724* · 01-19-2011, 12:00 PM

I can't do same day, but we will do same dyno, same correction factor etc. I won't sugarcoat nothing, I promise you that.

Lostnwalmart · 01-19-2011, 12:12 PM

I put mine in last weekend and Wow this 76 mm turbo starts to light about 500 rpm sooner (did a little work on the head too) and his new springs are 170 lb if I recall not 110. You will love it. The first time I got on it I poped the head gasket but right before it went omg this thing pulled!

BgBlDodge · 01-19-2011, 12:18 PM

Bout damn time man. You think that 66 spooled good now, wait till you get that cam in. Whole new truck.

*cummins724* · 01-19-2011, 12:39 PM

My truck already spools well on lowend. I'm hoping it opens up the topend. Lots of airflow improvements in the works. I'm gonna try to get my stainless manifold on before we start dynoing too.

mech2161 · 01-19-2011, 01:10 PM

You better get a bigger exhaust housing before you push it too hard.

dieseljunkie · 01-19-2011, 03:07 PM

New??? I was running one of these 2 years ago.....

2141pete · 01-19-2011, 03:12 PM

I doubt it was this same cam 2 years ago. Zach has changed the 181/210 a few times in the last couple years. I should be getting my new one any time. I hope to dyno before and after as well.

*cummins724* · 01-19-2011, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mech2161

You better get a bigger exhaust housing before you push it too hard.

Don't worry, got something in the works bud.

jsf350 · 01-19-2011, 06:57 PM

you will be liking it-
theres been a 50 hp gain- same dyno- over a helix cam- seen it

*cummins724* · 01-19-2011, 07:04 PM

Nice!

duallyspeed · 01-19-2011, 07:18 PM

What made you want the 181/210? What about the 188/220.

*cummins724* · 01-19-2011, 08:36 PM

I'm just swapping cams, not getting into the engine teardown etc.

duallyspeed · 01-19-2011, 09:51 PM

Thats good to know, thanks.

*cummins724* · 01-19-2011, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamilton Cams

The 188/220 can fit if you have not had your head or block decked and you are williing to check clearances. The 181/210 is probably the best for overall bottom end spool, smoke reduction and egt reduction. And it will make great power to 4k. If you were spinning 4500-4800, I would say go with the 188/220.

What a/r housings are you running on your current charger?

Zach

My head was decked, but its been 5 years. I can't remember how much it was decked. I went with the 181/210 because I didn't want to get into too much work, just swap cams and be done with it. My A/R is .80

*cummins724* · 01-19-2011, 10:03 PM

Thats what I'm looking for. I am putting alot of money into making my engine breath this year. My truck tows its azz off, but I need more flow up top for sled pulling.

jsf350 · 01-19-2011, 10:11 PM

i wouldnt hesatate to put a new or old 181/210 into any truck

black truck makes 829 on fuel and i tow without turning it down.... smoke free above 10psi and egts didnt get over 1400*- and no head work

*cummins724* · 01-19-2011, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsf350

i wouldnt hesatate to put a new or old 181/210 into any truck

black truck makes 829 on fuel and i tow without turning it down.... smoke free above 10psi and egts didnt get over 1400*- and no head work

You still didn't paint that hood?

01-19-2011, 10:51 AM	#1
cummins724 Name: cummins724 Title: BREAKING $HIT Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2007 Member`s Gallery Posts: 8,568	Testing The New Hamilton 181/210 Cam I am still running a stock cam in my truck, yes bone stock. I was talking to Ryan at Hamilton Cams today about a customers truck, when the conversation about the new 181/210 cam came up. Ryan said that I will notice a huge gain blah, blah, blah. I offered to test one for him with dyno results and we made a deal. Today he shipped out a cam & the new 110# springs my way. I'm gonna try to get on a dyno soon to get my numbers with a bone stock cam. I will be changing absolutely nothing but the cam and springs before returning to the same dyno. What tests would you guys like to see so that I can start collecting data? Ofcourse I'll be towing my 18k# trailer on the same course for one test. __________________ CPP DIESEL Edge-PPE-EFI LIVE-H&S-II-Airdog-Fass-Smarty-ARP-AFE-Autometer-Isspro-MBRP-DDP-South Bend Clutch-Valair-CUSTOM INJECTORS-DIY BUMPERS www.CPPDIESEL.com

01-19-2011, 10:56 AM	#2
goosekiller Name: goosekiller Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland Member`s Gallery Posts: 267	Curious to see the results i was thinking about purchasing one of these cams when my engine gets rebuilt in a month or so. __________________ Dodge 2001 2500 4x4 12 valve swap TNT DIESEL

01-19-2011, 11:03 AM	#3
Big Swole Name: Big Swole Title: MegaInterceptor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Atlanta, GA Member`s Gallery Posts: 16,950	Same Day? Approx. Same Temps? Same Dyno? __________________ -HIS -2017 991.2 Turbo S GT Silver w/ Bordeaux Red / Black -2023 Camaro 2SS 1LE - 6MT - Sharkskin Metallic -2006 Honda S2000 - SOS Supercharged - 397 whp - Silverstone Metallic -2016 RAM 2500 MegaCab Diesel - Silver (Tuned) -HERS -2019 718 Boxster S - Miami Blue 6MT, Cobb Tune, Soul, Ohlins, -2014 958.1 Cayenne S - Umber Metallic / Luxor Beige -2013 Honda Civic S.i.Coupe - 6MT

01-19-2011, 12:00 PM	#4
cummins724 Name: cummins724 Title: BREAKING $HIT Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2007 Member`s Gallery Posts: 8,568	I can't do same day, but we will do same dyno, same correction factor etc. I won't sugarcoat nothing, I promise you that. __________________ CPP DIESEL Edge-PPE-EFI LIVE-H&S-II-Airdog-Fass-Smarty-ARP-AFE-Autometer-Isspro-MBRP-DDP-South Bend Clutch-Valair-CUSTOM INJECTORS-DIY BUMPERS www.CPPDIESEL.com

01-19-2011, 12:18 PM	#6
BgBlDodge Name: BgBlDodge Title: Hates hippies Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buda, Tx Member`s Gallery Posts: 16,647	Bout damn time man. You think that 66 spooled good now, wait till you get that cam in. Whole new truck. __________________ 2003 Nissan 350z Touring 6mt 2000 4runner Limited Tyler Williams We have become educated beyond our intelligence. -Jerry Clower

01-19-2011, 12:39 PM	#7
cummins724 Name: cummins724 Title: BREAKING $HIT Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2007 Member`s Gallery Posts: 8,568	My truck already spools well on lowend. I'm hoping it opens up the topend. Lots of airflow improvements in the works. I'm gonna try to get my stainless manifold on before we start dynoing too. __________________ CPP DIESEL Edge-PPE-EFI LIVE-H&S-II-Airdog-Fass-Smarty-ARP-AFE-Autometer-Isspro-MBRP-DDP-South Bend Clutch-Valair-CUSTOM INJECTORS-DIY BUMPERS www.CPPDIESEL.com

01-19-2011, 01:10 PM	#8
mech2161 Name: mech2161 Title: I have a secret. Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Morgantown WV Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,986	You better get a bigger exhaust housing before you push it too hard. __________________ Kevin SLEDPULLMOTORSPORTS

01-19-2011, 03:07 PM	#9
dieseljunkie Name: dieseljunkie Title: Wasted Wages Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Littlestown, PA Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,068	New??? I was running one of these 2 years ago..... __________________ 02 24V HO, NorthEast P-pump, , E.D. inj, ED twins, O-ringed, ARP studs, P&P and Balanced by Advanced Engine. Thanks,JWP Fab, E.D., Pure Diesel Power, GrandRock, Mumau Diesel,and Advanced Engine. 2010 FPP 2.6 points champion 2010 NADM 2.6 points champion

01-19-2011, 03:12 PM	#10
2141pete Name: 2141pete Title: Hell I dont know Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Camp Pendleton, CA Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,268	I doubt it was this same cam 2 years ago. Zach has changed the 181/210 a few times in the last couple years. I should be getting my new one any time. I hope to dyno before and after as well. __________________ 2018 Ram 2500 4x4

01-19-2011, 06:57 PM	#12
jsf350 Name: jsf350 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: NH Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,912	you will be liking it- theres been a 50 hp gain- same dyno- over a helix cam- seen it __________________ 00 F350- 00 F550 dump-01 F350 dump- 06 Dodge 2500-MPI/Hamilton, DPC 2011 #3 06 Dodge 2500-Bd Twins 587/1150 work truck 03 drag truck.10.53@131 Hamilton Cams

01-19-2011, 07:04 PM	#13
cummins724 Name: cummins724 Title: BREAKING $HIT Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2007 Member`s Gallery Posts: 8,568	Nice! __________________ CPP DIESEL Edge-PPE-EFI LIVE-H&S-II-Airdog-Fass-Smarty-ARP-AFE-Autometer-Isspro-MBRP-DDP-South Bend Clutch-Valair-CUSTOM INJECTORS-DIY BUMPERS www.CPPDIESEL.com

01-19-2011, 07:18 PM	#14
duallyspeed Name: duallyspeed Title: New Speedway Boogie Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2009 Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,558	What made you want the 181/210? What about the 188/220. __________________ 01 dually 4x4

01-19-2011, 08:36 PM	#15
cummins724 Name: cummins724 Title: BREAKING $HIT Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2007 Member`s Gallery Posts: 8,568	I'm just swapping cams, not getting into the engine teardown etc. __________________ CPP DIESEL Edge-PPE-EFI LIVE-H&S-II-Airdog-Fass-Smarty-ARP-AFE-Autometer-Isspro-MBRP-DDP-South Bend Clutch-Valair-CUSTOM INJECTORS-DIY BUMPERS www.CPPDIESEL.com

01-19-2011, 09:51 PM	#16
duallyspeed Name: duallyspeed Title: New Speedway Boogie Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2009 Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,558	Thats good to know, thanks. __________________ 01 dually 4x4

01-19-2011, 10:03 PM	#18
cummins724 Name: cummins724 Title: BREAKING $HIT Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2007 Member`s Gallery Posts: 8,568	Thats what I'm looking for. I am putting alot of money into making my engine breath this year. My truck tows its azz off, but I need more flow up top for sled pulling. __________________ CPP DIESEL Edge-PPE-EFI LIVE-H&S-II-Airdog-Fass-Smarty-ARP-AFE-Autometer-Isspro-MBRP-DDP-South Bend Clutch-Valair-CUSTOM INJECTORS-DIY BUMPERS www.CPPDIESEL.com

01-19-2011, 10:11 PM	#19
jsf350 Name: jsf350 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: NH Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,912	i wouldnt hesatate to put a new or old 181/210 into any truck black truck makes 829 on fuel and i tow without turning it down.... smoke free above 10psi and egts didnt get over 1400- and no head work __________________ 00 F350- 00 F550 dump-01 F350 dump- 06 Dodge 2500-MPI/Hamilton, DPC 2011 #3 06 Dodge 2500-Bd Twins 587/1150 work truck 03 drag truck.10.53@131 Hamilton Cams Last edited by jsf350; 01-19-2011 at 10:12 PM.*