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Old 05-09-2013, 02:58 PM   #1
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97 12v valve build advice and opinions

97 12 valve eclb
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building it for a best friend

it came with an ATS transmission (sorry) billet input and output
snow water/meth stage 2
ATS arc flow boost tube
4" SP exhaust
KDP fixed
boost gauge and egt gauge

okay so now what i plan to add

A1 H11 head studs
he351 over s475<(someone clarify what size i need)
CCP piping kit
CCP 5x16 or 7x14 (need input?)
mac plug
full cut DVs
no plate
cut afc foot
18* timing ? (need input)
columbus 5K springs
60 lb springs

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for exterior mods and input
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:41 PM   #2
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repaint white maybe
tow mirrors painted white
black headlights
black grilll
paint white brake light bezels
remove the little pad on the tailgate(need some input on how to get the glue off)
roll pan (who do yall use or who do yall recomend)
lowering the back 1" (taking out the block)
black wheels of some kind or american force wheels
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:43 PM   #3
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Power goal?
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:44 PM   #4
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What are his goals blah blah blah get all the bs questions answered first.
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:52 PM   #5
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650-700?
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:05 PM   #6
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Lose the HE351, what kind of budget?
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:15 PM   #7
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semi low what would you recomend?
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Old 05-09-2013, 11:27 PM   #8
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I would get Haisley 5k springs instead of Columbus, they are easier to set. But otherwise listen to Weston, he'll point you in the right direction.
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Old 05-09-2013, 11:38 PM   #9
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Lose the HE351, what kind of budget?
I'm surprised you didn't catch the full cuts first. Just send more business to the guy selling turbos. Lol

He351 and a ht4c have made 750hp, just lookup the junker drag truck thread. And on a budget I wouldn't hesitate to use the 351. 400 bucks vs 1400 bucks on a drop in s300.
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Old 05-09-2013, 11:42 PM   #10
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I'm surprised you didn't catch the full cuts first. Just send more business to the guy selling turbos. Lol

He351 and a ht4c have made 750hp, just lookup the junker drag truck thread. And on a budget I wouldn't hesitate to use the 351. 400 bucks vs 1400 bucks on a drop in s300.
You mean the 7/14s.
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Yeah I can get a 351 for like 300 bucks on eBay and its already a gated turbo lol and I'm getting the s475 pretty cheap too

What about 7/14s?

Thanks cross ill do haisleys 5ks instead

Does everything else seem to be in pretty good order ?
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:49 AM   #12
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Quick question what's the difference between haisleys 5ks and Columbus'?
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Don't cut the Afc foot, ditch the full cuts, stick with the 5x.016's. I've got some delivery valves I'll sell ya dirt cheap to help keep on your budget theme.
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Just send more business to the guy selling turbos.
Ron Allen and I have discussed on several occasions how people using the HE351 try so hard to make good power, but often come up short. I guess some people will never realize that the HE351 is just a bottleneck in a system that desires flow. The "butt dyno" is an interesting thing, but the real world results are often quite the opposite.
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The "butt dyno" is an interesting thing, but the real world results are often quite the opposite.
I've heard Ryan say this exact thing a hundred times Weston lol
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So y'all are saying with a different secondary you will get a more butt in seat feeling ?

What is usually the end result horsepower with the 351?
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My buddy has a twin setup for his 24v it's a dtec 62 over s475 he has for sale what might I have to build/modify for them to work
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come on guys throw on some BS opinnions lol
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Ron Allen and I have discussed on several occasions how people using the HE351 try so hard to make good power, but often come up short. I guess some people will never realize that the HE351 is just a bottleneck in a system that desires flow. The "butt dyno" is an interesting thing, but the real world results are often quite the opposite.






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come on guys throw on some BS opinnions lol
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So y'all are saying with a different secondary you will get a more butt in seat feeling ?

What is usually the end result horsepower with the 351?
Don't run a dtec. Lower your power goal if you want a tiny secondary.

End result hp of 351 is pretty broad question.
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