Who's got the best truck in the country?

[Sarafin]

Who's the top dog?

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[zstroken]

I don't know if this can be answered, haven't there only been like 2 pulls for the modifieds?

[Empty_Pockets]

Kory and wade when they hook their car to the sled

[TheSilverBullet]

I do

[Empty_Pockets]

My stock-ish lb7 does good in work stock..

My 12 cummins does good in open class too..

[BluegrassDiesel]

Not as cut and dry as it was several years ago. Technology, innovation, and competition have grown tremendously. Most nights its anyone's ball game depending on hook order and track condition.

[ramtough01]

If was a few years ago was pretty easy to say who the top trucks in each class where but now its to close to say

[Pudge]

Some people have the best stuff their money or anyone else's could buy, and still don't get in the winners circle, so its a bit of a vague question. In my opinion, with the same sled setting and run every truck on the same track regardless of class, RWYB style, Kellog or Crowder in their own SS would be my bet

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[Sarafin]

Did you guys see Drew Pumphreys post about a drag racing style bracket pull?
I've talked about it for years to try it up in the Northeast but whenever I being it up to the older generation of pullers they've seemed hesitant to change from the current show method.
A bracket pull would take pulling from a 3 hour show at a fair to an all day event - exactly like drag racing and personally I think only one of the two Motorsports is booming right now

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[ryanss22]

In the 3.6 class id havd to say Jon manns or James barder

[J-Pipes]

Originally Posted by Sarafin

Did you guys see Drew Pumphreys post about a drag racing style bracket pull?
I've talked about it for years to try it up in the Northeast but whenever I being it up to the older generation of pullers they've seemed hesitant to change from the current show method.
A bracket pull would take pulling from a 3 hour show at a fair to an all day event - exactly like drag racing and personally I think only one of the two Motorsports is booming right now

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Sold a tractor to a guy last weekend that was telling me about bracket pulls for antique tractors. Want to say he was from the central Pa area. Sounds pretty cool to me, draw numbers or whatever to get paired up each round. Just have to figure out a pulling order to give guys a chance to cool down between rounds, without doing full sled re-sets. Or just do run what ya brung style, never know if you're going to go against a super stock or a work stock! Heck could get lucky and win with a VP truck even!

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[Begle1]

Bracket pull? How does that work? You only pull a certain amount of weight and if you full pull you bust out? What?

[takedown95]

Originally Posted by Begle1

Bracket pull? How does that work? You only pull a certain amount of weight and if you full pull you bust out? What?

I think the idea is you have a round of pulling and the top xxx number of trucks move on to the next round. Each round you reduce the number of trucks that pull until you ultimately get to the finals. How many are in the finals isn't clear but 2-4 trucks.

In terms of SSDFWD I think the most consistent drivers in the nation are Kellogg, Crowder, Hastings, and Haisley. Not too far behind them is Dugan. Notice I didn't say trucks because at SSDFWD it's less about the truck and more about the driver. HP hasn't been an issue in that class for quite some time and some of these guys are are using chassis technology that is 10 years old and some only a few years old.

In the 3.0 and 3.6 class HP still rules for the most part even though 3.6 is getting to the point where you can't just drop the clutch and go full throttle right off the line.

[J-Pipes]

Originally Posted by Begle1

Bracket pull? How does that work? You only pull a certain amount of weight and if you full pull you bust out? What?

From my understanding, it's fairly similar to how these no-prep races work if you watch any of those. Everyone will pull the first round, but they're only pulling against one other guy, thus the drawing chips or whatever to get the pairings randomly. Then you only have to out-pull one truck each round. Could even work in a bonus of sorts for for each round, say overall furthest pull of the round wins a small prize.

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[Timbeaux]

Originally Posted by takedown95

I think the idea is you have a round of pulling and the top xxx number of trucks move on to the next round. Each round you reduce the number of trucks that pull until you ultimately get to the finals. How many are in the finals isn't clear but 2-4 trucks.

In terms of SSDFWD I think the most consistent drivers in the nation are Kellogg, Crowder, Hastings, and Haisley. Not too far behind them is Dugan. Notice I didn't say trucks because at SSDFWD it's less about the truck and more about the driver. HP hasn't been an issue in that class for quite some time and some of these guys are are using chassis technology that is 10 years old and some only a few years old.

In the 3.0 and 3.6 class HP still rules for the most part even though 3.6 is getting to the point where you can't just drop the clutch and go full throttle right off the line.

Interesting..... What do the pullers think about said bracket pulling? I would imagine you would go through quite a few more dollars every year if you had to go 3-4 laps per pull.

[takedown95]

Originally Posted by Timbeaux

Interesting..... What do the pullers think about said bracket pulling? I would imagine you would go through quite a few more dollars every year if you had to go 3-4 laps per pull.

From my personal perspective I like the idea of having the opportunity to pull more than once per day but what concerns me is what happens if you get eliminated in the first round (especially if it's only you against one other person to move on and potentially miss out on any payouts)? I just drove 8-12 hours for one hook and I may have had the second longest distance of anybody and I get zero.

Also, we change our oil every 6-8 hooks and our pump oil every 4 passes and it's about $250-$300 per change with filters. So, if we are doing that every weekend it adds up on top of everything else.

So payouts would have to be increased significantly and entry fees need to stay the same.

If those items above are not addressed I wouldn't put more stress on my engine with a risk of getting much less or nothing when today I can show up and hook once a day and likely get the same amount of money or more.

[TheHammer]

Originally Posted by ryanss22

In the 3.6 class id havd to say Jon manns or James barder

On the east coast yes, both have been consistent. But on any given night if all the trucks were to show up. They could be first or last. The truck that won sdx last year on Friday, finished next to a truck running on 5cylinders all weekend toward the bottom half of the bunch. Just as josh stated, hook order and track conditions applied. Unless politics are involved

[dieselbeef]

my fl60 biotches

[J-Pipes]

Originally Posted by dieselbeef

my fl60 biotches

Yeah! After weeks of chasing your tail and cussing that thing, you finally listened to people on here, who you asked what to do, and now it's the greatest! Hahaha

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[zstroken]

Originally Posted by takedown95

From my personal perspective I like the idea of having the opportunity to pull more than once per day but what concerns me is what happens if you get eliminated in the first round (especially if it's only you against one other person to move on and potentially miss out on any payouts)? I just drove 8-12 hours for one hook and I may have had the second longest distance of anybody and I get zero.

Also, we change our oil every 6-8 hooks and our pump oil every 4 passes and it's about $250-$300 per change with filters. So, if we are doing that every weekend it adds up on top of everything else.

So payouts would have to be increased significantly and entry fees need to stay the same.

If those items above are not addressed I wouldn't put more stress on my engine with a risk of getting much less or nothing when today I can show up and hook once a day and likely get the same amount of money or more.

I didn't realize folks with a superstock puller looked at financial returns of their pulling adventures. Of course maybe it is just the "can I cover my fuel money/expenses for the trip?"


I think if you talk to promoters/fair boards, they don't want 4 hours of diesel trucks, they want about an hour per class. Give the fans the most variety of pulling vehicles for their bucks.