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LawDawg119 · 04-11-2021, 10:54 PM

Any help would be appreciated!
02 6 speed HO 4x4

Truck has a air dog lift pump with a sump and the fuel guage doesn’t work.
Truck runs and drives perfect and ran it out of fuel, now it has intermittent dead pedal, and weird idle spikes when started. Shut it off twice and then it’s fine. Threw 5 codes on the dash after it ran out of fuel. What would cause this by only running out of fuel? Zero issues before this.
Codes:
P0122
P0121
P0602
P1693
P0463

Marq92 · 04-11-2021, 11:11 PM

P0121 Accelerator Position Sensor (APPS) Signal Voltage Too Low
P0122 Accelerator Position Sensor (APPS) LowAPPS Voltage Input Too Low
P0463 Fuel Level Sensor 1 High
P0602 Control Module Programming Error/NotProgrammed
P1693 Generic fault indicating a fault in the bus or PCM/ECM interface(companion code)

LawDawg119 · 04-12-2021, 10:00 AM

Thank you for the reply! I know what the codes are, but the question is why/ how does this happen just from running out of fuel. I only unscrewed the filters and cracked 3 injector lines. Didn’t touch anything else. Why do these codes come up now?

dieselbeef · 04-12-2021, 12:35 PM

cuz these trucks suck electrically....i have an 01 and an 02..gremlins live in them both....

BigPapa · 04-12-2021, 02:04 PM

Gremlins were standard equipment on '88 to '93 models and '98.5 up. They were optional on the '95-'98's.

RacinDuallie · 04-12-2021, 07:05 PM

Might have starved vp and it did some scoring internally, and overheated the board.

LawDawg119 · 04-12-2021, 08:08 PM

You think? I’ve probably put 300 miles on it sense. Shut it off twice and runs fine after Untill I shut it off again. I see people that put hundreds or more of miles on VP with no fuel pressure. I find it hard to believe it took the VP out, but it is a possibility. It made one little hiccup and then new I was out of fuel that’s it. Wasnt like it was running bad and I was pushing it to get the the gas station or anything. Just died.

Marq92 · 04-12-2021, 09:59 PM

Very likely the vp is damaged. It's news to me a vp would live from hundreds or more of miles with no pressure. Could have just spazzed things out from being ran out of fuel though. Just like your other thread. It's not good for vehicles to sit that long especially when there are inherent issues. It may just work it out that stuff from the system.

chevota84 · 04-12-2021, 10:24 PM

Have you tried clearing the codes and seeing what comes back?

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Marq92 · 04-12-2021, 10:37 PM

^great tip

LawDawg119 · 04-14-2021, 09:58 AM

Put a new throttle position sensor in that was programmed to the housing and still didn’t fix it. Cleared codes and same issue and codes came back.

Red_SC · 05-04-2021, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigPapa

Gremlins were standard equipment on '88 to '93 models and '98.5 up. They were optional on the '95-'98's.

That has to be the best summary of Dodge wiring I’ve ever seen.

inline_ · 11-02-2021, 10:36 PM

Dealing with a similar issue..

dieselbeef · 11-03-2021, 06:21 AM

I assume youve done the apps reset on it?

4x4dually · 11-03-2021, 07:29 AM

Messing with the APPS with these other codes popping up ain't gonna do shit.

P0463 Fuel Level Sensor 1 High
P0602 Control Module Programming Error/NotProgrammed
P1693 Generic fault indicating a fault in the bus or PCM/ECM interface(companion code)

With the bus fault error, you've got larger concerns than the APPS IMO. I wish I had some advice on where to starts. I've never seen the P0602. Probably just reports that because of the bus fault and it can't communicate.

dieselbeef · 11-03-2021, 08:45 AM

plug on vp?

Smokinrebel · 11-03-2021, 09:11 AM

Gary, couldn't you share some experience with just p-pumping it?

dieselbeef · 11-03-2021, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokinrebel

Gary, couldn't you share some experience with just p-pumping it?

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4x4dually · 11-03-2021, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokinrebel

Gary, couldn't you share some experience with just p-pumping it?

I absolutely love that fact that I'm not the only victim of 15+ year old jokes.

Gary would have already ppumped it by now if you have told him it stood for penis pump and was made in Sweden.

Red Sleeper · 11-03-2021, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4x4dually

I absolutely love that fact that I'm not the only victim of 15+ year old jokes.

Mr. 170k fuel filter guy.

04-11-2021, 10:54 PM	#1
LawDawg119 Name: LawDawg119 Title: Rookie Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2021 Member`s Gallery Posts: 8	Ran out of fuel. Any help would be appreciated! 02 6 speed HO 4x4 Truck has a air dog lift pump with a sump and the fuel guage doesn’t work. Truck runs and drives perfect and ran it out of fuel, now it has intermittent dead pedal, and weird idle spikes when started. Shut it off twice and then it’s fine. Threw 5 codes on the dash after it ran out of fuel. What would cause this by only running out of fuel? Zero issues before this. Codes: P0122 P0121 P0602 P1693 P0463

04-11-2021, 11:11 PM	#2
Marq92 Name: Marq92 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2012 Member`s Gallery Posts: 952	P0121 Accelerator Position Sensor (APPS) Signal Voltage Too Low P0122 Accelerator Position Sensor (APPS) LowAPPS Voltage Input Too Low P0463 Fuel Level Sensor 1 High P0602 Control Module Programming Error/NotProgrammed P1693 Generic fault indicating a fault in the bus or PCM/ECM interface(companion code) __________________ 2001.0 QCLB 3500 4x4 3.55 Toyo M-55 255/85R16 Brown's/Goerend 48RE sonnax shafts/maxed count Alto clutches Carli/Deaver 3.0 EMF BJ's PSC 6 bolt box Synergy steering TheRetroShop HID projector retrofit VLED's DC Power 180A alternator W-T ground mod ISSPRO EV2's

04-12-2021, 12:35 PM	#4
dieselbeef Name: dieselbeef Title: dick doggin Status: Here Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: myakka city florida Member`s Gallery Posts: 9,860	cuz these trucks suck electrically....i have an 01 and an 02..gremlins live in them both.... __________________ 02 quad cab 4x4 aluminum flatbed 63/68/14 hrvp INJ by weston 4.10 gorend/suncoast method race 01 2500 4x4 quad cab all stock/drag comp 07.5 3500 4x4 dually 4 dr 6.7 d&j extreme, fleece cheetah, gorend triple, cat filters, rip wrongway...

04-12-2021, 02:04 PM	#5
BigPapa Name: BigPapa Title: Truckless Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Springfield, TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,034	Gremlins were standard equipment on '88 to '93 models and '98.5 up. They were optional on the '95-'98's. __________________ Scott 2003 Avalanche Z71 Common sense is like deodorant. The people that need it most never use it.

04-12-2021, 07:05 PM	#6
RacinDuallie Name: RacinDuallie Title: Black Sheep Racing Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Supporting Northeast Diesel Racing Member`s Gallery Posts: 17,369	Might have starved vp and it did some scoring internally, and overheated the board. __________________

04-12-2021, 10:00 AM	#3
LawDawg119 Name: LawDawg119 Title: Rookie Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2021 Member`s Gallery Posts: 8	Thank you for the reply! I know what the codes are, but the question is why/ how does this happen just from running out of fuel. I only unscrewed the filters and cracked 3 injector lines. Didn’t touch anything else. Why do these codes come up now?

04-12-2021, 08:08 PM	#7
LawDawg119 Name: LawDawg119 Title: Rookie Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2021 Member`s Gallery Posts: 8	You think? I’ve probably put 300 miles on it sense. Shut it off twice and runs fine after Untill I shut it off again. I see people that put hundreds or more of miles on VP with no fuel pressure. I find it hard to believe it took the VP out, but it is a possibility. It made one little hiccup and then new I was out of fuel that’s it. Wasnt like it was running bad and I was pushing it to get the the gas station or anything. Just died.

04-12-2021, 09:59 PM	#8
Marq92 Name: Marq92 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2012 Member`s Gallery Posts: 952	Very likely the vp is damaged. It's news to me a vp would live from hundreds or more of miles with no pressure. Could have just spazzed things out from being ran out of fuel though. Just like your other thread. It's not good for vehicles to sit that long especially when there are inherent issues. It may just work it out that stuff from the system. __________________ 2001.0 QCLB 3500 4x4 3.55 Toyo M-55 255/85R16 Brown's/Goerend 48RE sonnax shafts/maxed count Alto clutches Carli/Deaver 3.0 EMF BJ's PSC 6 bolt box Synergy steering TheRetroShop HID projector retrofit VLED's DC Power 180A alternator W-T ground mod ISSPRO EV2's

04-12-2021, 10:24 PM	#9
chevota84 Name: chevota84 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Prineville, OR Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,926	Have you tried clearing the codes and seeing what comes back? Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk __________________ 99 Dodge 2500 with stuff

04-12-2021, 10:37 PM	#10
Marq92 Name: Marq92 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2012 Member`s Gallery Posts: 952	^great tip __________________ 2001.0 QCLB 3500 4x4 3.55 Toyo M-55 255/85R16 Brown's/Goerend 48RE sonnax shafts/maxed count Alto clutches Carli/Deaver 3.0 EMF BJ's PSC 6 bolt box Synergy steering TheRetroShop HID projector retrofit VLED's DC Power 180A alternator W-T ground mod ISSPRO EV2's

04-14-2021, 09:58 AM	#11
LawDawg119 Name: LawDawg119 Title: Rookie Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2021 Member`s Gallery Posts: 8	Put a new throttle position sensor in that was programmed to the housing and still didn’t fix it. Cleared codes and same issue and codes came back.

11-02-2021, 10:36 PM	#13
inline_ Name: inline_ Title: Rookie Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2021 Member`s Gallery Posts: 14	Dealing with a similar issue..

11-03-2021, 06:21 AM	#14
dieselbeef Name: dieselbeef Title: dick doggin Status: Here Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: myakka city florida Member`s Gallery Posts: 9,860	I assume youve done the apps reset on it? __________________ 02 quad cab 4x4 aluminum flatbed 63/68/14 hrvp INJ by weston 4.10 gorend/suncoast method race 01 2500 4x4 quad cab all stock/drag comp 07.5 3500 4x4 dually 4 dr 6.7 d&j extreme, fleece cheetah, gorend triple, cat filters, rip wrongway...

11-03-2021, 07:29 AM	#15
4x4dually Name: 4x4dually Title: Moderator Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stillwater, OK Member`s Gallery Posts: 31,812	Messing with the APPS with these other codes popping up ain't gonna do shit. P0463 Fuel Level Sensor 1 High P0602 Control Module Programming Error/NotProgrammed P1693 Generic fault indicating a fault in the bus or PCM/ECM interface(companion code) With the bus fault error, you've got larger concerns than the APPS IMO. I wish I had some advice on where to starts. I've never seen the P0602. Probably just reports that because of the bus fault and it can't communicate.

11-03-2021, 08:45 AM	#16
dieselbeef Name: dieselbeef Title: dick doggin Status: Here Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: myakka city florida Member`s Gallery Posts: 9,860	plug on vp? __________________ 02 quad cab 4x4 aluminum flatbed 63/68/14 hrvp INJ by weston 4.10 gorend/suncoast method race 01 2500 4x4 quad cab all stock/drag comp 07.5 3500 4x4 dually 4 dr 6.7 d&j extreme, fleece cheetah, gorend triple, cat filters, rip wrongway...

11-03-2021, 09:11 AM	#17
Smokinrebel Name: Smokinrebel Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2008 Location: SW Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,141	Gary, couldn't you share some experience with just p-pumping it? __________________ 2008 Huffy 10 Spd