Allison 1000 Shift Kits - Competition Diesel.Com

Hardtailxxx · 11-07-2006, 01:28 PM

I did alot of research before hand and heard only negative comments, so I thought I would post my thoughts on the Bully Dog shift kits now that I have done the installation of both their kits on my rig. I started with the Super Aggressive Kit on my '03 GMC and It was nothing short of SUPER AGGRESSIVE! I thought I would pop u-joints just driving around town, but when you actually are laying in to it from a light you couldn't ask for anything better from a tire chirping kit that installs in under an hour for a hundred bucks. It gives you an "unrefined I'm in gear, hold on feeling". Now, don't get me wrong, I love doing all the best mods and nailing down on it from a light and wasting the kid in his daddy's 'Vette, but to each his own. All in all, the Super Aggressive kit is too much to be streetable in my opinion, but if you are a sled pulling stocker or racing I can see its use. After I found the Super Aggressive kit to be less than streetable, I installed the Shift Enhancer kit. It is exactly that, a enhancer, it would be right between stock and the Super Aggressive kit by the seat of the pants feel giving a more firm, quicker than stock, positive shift. Based on this I would think the shift enhancer kit is probably what 75% of the people out there with the daily driven LB7's would want- towing, crusing, controled street racing and at the least staying streetable. I am always in search of better upgrades and ways, so I thought I would try the shift kits myself. Any body else have thoughts about it?

*Mark Craig* · 11-08-2006, 08:35 AM

Hardtailxxx,

You're exactly correct, we sell the enhancer 99% of the time as the aggressive is just too much for the majority of folks.

Mark @ DPPI

bartc_2 · 01-24-2007, 08:48 PM

what kind of power levels is this enhancer good for... im guessing if you are making more then stock power a tq converter is a must

Noreaster · 01-25-2007, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bartc_2

what kind of power levels is this enhancer good for...

The bullydog kit is worthless, Transgo is a good shift kit. That will hold up to 500hp with a TC

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im guessing if you are making more then stock power a tq converter is a must[/QUOTE]Not really, but it will limit the power you put down. After 350hp you need a beefy TC

moss · 01-25-2007, 12:24 PM

hardtail, put 300 miles on it. you wil never know it was there. you cant fool the tcm that easily

gunracer1 · 01-25-2007, 01:59 PM

we put the bully dog kit in my friends truck, it was a waste of time and money as far as he is concerned.

Burner · 01-25-2007, 03:07 PM

Bully parts are just that.......Bull.

A little Allison education will go a long way.

Want a real transmission? Call one of our vendors here and ask them what they recommend. You said your parts came from Mark @ DPPI, ask him what REALLY works, a SunCoast Allison.

Mike L. · 01-25-2007, 05:00 PM

Think it was last year that Joe Webb told me he had the bully dog Dodge in his shop for trans work. Seems they couldn't figure out why it didn't work properly and wanted Suncoast to fix it.

lukesdiesel · 04-08-2007, 12:11 PM

If your looking for a better shift then the Bully Dog Kits are the way to go... If you want a full blown tranny..... then Suncoast

Burner · 04-08-2007, 05:37 PM

Luke..........we are talking Allison here. It is a whole other game than the wheel and cog your Dodge has in it. And, I'll ask you this... What makes a clutch cone?

lukesdiesel · 04-14-2007, 09:10 AM

Wheel and Cog

Two conical surfaces to transmit friction and torque

Burner · 04-14-2007, 01:40 PM

....eerrmmm, not really what I'm talking about.

lukesdiesel · 04-14-2007, 09:59 PM

I would agree that a fully built Suncoast or ATS tranny is what you want. But not everyone can afford a $4000-$8000 race tranny. With a mild HP increase the Bully Dog or Transgo Shift kits will work alot better than stock.

Noreaster · 04-15-2007, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by lukesdiesel

I would agree that a fully built Suncoast or ATS tranny is what you want. But not everyone can afford a $4000-$8000 race tranny.

If you want to play you have to pay sometime.

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With a mild HP increase the Bully Dog or Transgo Shift kits will work alot better than stock.

Bully Dog shouldn't even be mentioned, it doesn't do a damn thing. A Trans Go by itself won't do much without a TC.
Add up a TC $1300, transgo $200, C1-C3 Allison clutches(cause ya probably burnt them allready) $300 & boost modifier valve $90= $1890
Suncoast stage 3-$2260
spend the extra 370 on kit to do it right

lukesdiesel · 04-15-2007, 08:51 AM

So if you just want to have firmer shifts what do you recommend?

Burner · 04-15-2007, 12:17 PM

Doing it right the first time........Sun Coast.

Look at the vendor list here and see how many folks sell Sun Coast.

lukesdiesel · 04-15-2007, 06:52 PM

Suncoast and ATS......

Noreaster · 04-16-2007, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by lukesdiesel

So if you just want to have firmer shifts what do you recommend?

TCM programming

Mike L. · 04-16-2007, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by lukesdiesel

So if you just want to have firmer shifts what do you recommend?

You do not want firmir shifts on the Alli, you want quicker. Firm shifts usually indicate a tie-up.

Hardtailxxx · 04-19-2007, 11:06 AM

From MOSS:

"hardtail, put 300 miles on it. you wil never know it was there. you cant fool the tcm that easily"

Hey, MOSS, thought I would list an update now that I have over 13,000 miles on the shift enhancer kit. Still feels the same as when I put it in, quick firm shifts.

11-08-2006, 08:35 AM	#2
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01-25-2007, 12:24 PM	#5
moss Name: moss Title: eager to start pulling Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: sandwich, il Member`s Gallery Posts: 157	hardtail, put 300 miles on it. you wil never know it was there. you cant fool the tcm that easily __________________ 01 with tts parts 08

01-25-2007, 01:59 PM	#6
gunracer1 Name: gunracer1 Title: Diesel Pro Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: just north of lake weatherford, tx Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,985	we put the bully dog kit in my friends truck, it was a waste of time and money as far as he is concerned. __________________ 98 3500 4x4 quad 12v 5 speed,98 quad 4x4 12v stock sold, and a 95 reg cab getting triples.97 dually 4x4,6 speed over 500 rwhp, sold, 98 3/4 ton short bed reg cab, over 500 rwhp, sold. 98 quad 5 speed sold and the wife has a little dmax.

01-25-2007, 03:07 PM	#7
Burner Name: Burner Title: slow poke Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,392	Bully parts are just that.......Bull. A little Allison education will go a long way. Want a real transmission? Call one of our vendors here and ask them what they recommend. You said your parts came from Mark @ DPPI, ask him what REALLY works, a SunCoast Allison. __________________ The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. -- Thomas Jefferson

04-08-2007, 12:11 PM	#9
lukesdiesel Name: lukesdiesel Title: Diesel Dawg's Performance Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NC Member`s Gallery Posts: 358	If your looking for a better shift then the Bully Dog Kits are the way to go... If you want a full blown tranny..... then Suncoast __________________ Diesel Dawgs Performance, Diesel Performance Parts, Cummins, Duramax, Powerstroke, High Performance Diesels,

01-24-2007, 08:48 PM	#3
bartc_2 Name: bartc_2 Title: Rookie Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2007 Member`s Gallery Posts: 14	what kind of power levels is this enhancer good for... im guessing if you are making more then stock power a tq converter is a must

01-25-2007, 05:00 PM	#8
Mike L. Name: Mike L. Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 157	Think it was last year that Joe Webb told me he had the bully dog Dodge in his shop for trans work. Seems they couldn't figure out why it didn't work properly and wanted Suncoast to fix it.

04-08-2007, 05:37 PM	#10
Burner Name: Burner Title: slow poke Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,392	Luke..........we are talking Allison here. It is a whole other game than the wheel and cog your Dodge has in it. And, I'll ask you this... What makes a clutch cone? __________________ The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. -- Thomas Jefferson

04-14-2007, 09:10 AM	#11
lukesdiesel Name: lukesdiesel Title: Diesel Dawg's Performance Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NC Member`s Gallery Posts: 358	Wheel and Cog Two conical surfaces to transmit friction and torque __________________ Diesel Dawgs Performance, Diesel Performance Parts, Cummins, Duramax, Powerstroke, High Performance Diesels,

04-14-2007, 01:40 PM	#12
Burner Name: Burner Title: slow poke Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,392	....eerrmmm, not really what I'm talking about. __________________ The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. -- Thomas Jefferson

04-14-2007, 09:59 PM	#13
lukesdiesel Name: lukesdiesel Title: Diesel Dawg's Performance Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NC Member`s Gallery Posts: 358	I would agree that a fully built Suncoast or ATS tranny is what you want. But not everyone can afford a $4000-$8000 race tranny. With a mild HP increase the Bully Dog or Transgo Shift kits will work alot better than stock. __________________ Diesel Dawgs Performance, Diesel Performance Parts, Cummins, Duramax, Powerstroke, High Performance Diesels,

04-15-2007, 08:51 AM	#15
lukesdiesel Name: lukesdiesel Title: Diesel Dawg's Performance Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NC Member`s Gallery Posts: 358	So if you just want to have firmer shifts what do you recommend? __________________ Diesel Dawgs Performance, Diesel Performance Parts, Cummins, Duramax, Powerstroke, High Performance Diesels,

04-15-2007, 12:17 PM	#16
Burner Name: Burner Title: slow poke Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,392	Doing it right the first time........Sun Coast. Look at the vendor list here and see how many folks sell Sun Coast. __________________ The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. -- Thomas Jefferson

04-15-2007, 06:52 PM	#17
lukesdiesel Name: lukesdiesel Title: Diesel Dawg's Performance Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NC Member`s Gallery Posts: 358	Suncoast and ATS...... __________________ Diesel Dawgs Performance, Diesel Performance Parts, Cummins, Duramax, Powerstroke, High Performance Diesels, Last edited by wideopen; 04-16-2007 at 07:30 AM.

04-19-2007, 11:06 AM	#20
Hardtailxxx Name: Hardtailxxx Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 115	From MOSS: "hardtail, put 300 miles on it. you wil never know it was there. you cant fool the tcm that easily" Hey, MOSS, thought I would list an update now that I have over 13,000 miles on the shift enhancer kit. Still feels the same as when I put it in, quick firm shifts.

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