Truckers, lets see your rigs!

Leiffi said:
Here one manufacturer tried Cat engines some years back, they were the worst POS on the market. No power or torque, high fuel consumption, very unreliable. C18, C13 and C15 Acerts. After complaints from customer they offered to change them to Volvo engines for 5000 euros.
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we've heard your schpiel 1000 times before, we didn't care then, and we certainly don't care now.
 
Leiffi said:
Here one manufacturer tried Cat engines some years back, they were the worst POS on the market. No power or torque, high fuel consumption, very unreliable. C18, C13 and C15 Acerts. After complaints from customer they offered to change them to Volvo engines for 5000 euros.
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Yeah the ACERTs were pretty bad. No point in moving all that air for nothing. At least the cat guys got monotherm pistons out of them!
 
Signature600 said:
Spade = Spade


I don't care if newer engines will run at 1100RPM, I'll never own one. I got my belly full of paying for emissions crap on our truck from 2009-2014 when we had an MXS C15 and I think a 2250 ISX...Gliders from here until we cant buy them anymore.
Chris
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I can't disagree with any of this. I probably won't own one either. I refuse to be a slave to the truck and I absolutely love how cheap and easy it is to fix my series 60.

Even with the improved BSFC of these new engines you're still money ahead doing gliders. I will never say otherwise.

That being said it is pretty neat what they're doing with the new engines. Advanced common rail, new piston designs with notches that change the way combustion happens and allows them to run closer to stoich. Far more efficient than running an engine at 600-700 EGTs because of tons of excess air. The turbo only puts in exactly as much air as needed for combustion nowadays, they're constantly running richer than 20:1 as opposed to ACERT that always ran leaner than 30:1. Downspeeding and doing it reliably. One OEM is rumored to be releasing an engine soon without EGR or DPF!
 
if you had ever experienced a tuned acert with the IVA's deleted, you'd be singing a different tune. especially an SDP or NXS
 
Mr.T said:
we've heard your schpiel 1000 times before, we didn't care then, and we certainly don't care now.
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I also dont care if you say Volvo is crap because it isn't. Less trouble than Cat even in North America if you just admit it.
 
allan5oh said:
I can't disagree with any of this. I probably won't own one either. I refuse to be a slave to the truck and I absolutely love how cheap and easy it is to fix my series 60.

Even with the improved BSFC of these new engines you're still money ahead doing gliders. I will never say otherwise.

That being said it is pretty neat what they're doing with the new engines. Advanced common rail, new piston designs with notches that change the way combustion happens and allows them to run closer to stoich. Far more efficient than running an engine at 600-700 EGTs because of tons of excess air. The turbo only puts in exactly as much air as needed for combustion nowadays, they're constantly running richer than 20:1 as opposed to ACERT that always ran leaner than 30:1. Downspeeding and doing it reliably. One OEM is rumored to be releasing an engine soon without EGR or DPF!
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There is already many engines without EGR, but I think we cant get rid of DPF. It's not even a big problem, pressure differential across my DPF is only 0.3 bar and it has never needed regeneration.
 
Leiffi said:
I also dont care if you say Volvo is crap because it isn't. Less trouble than Cat even in North America if you just admit it.
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you don't hardly ever see cat powered trucks 'across the pond' and i've been around them as a driver and mechanic for more than years, yet you're going to sit here and tell me my eyes are lying to me? get fukking real.
 
Mr.T said:
if you had ever experienced a tuned acert with the IVA's deleted, you'd be singing a different tune. especially an SDP or NXS
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Yup good engines tuned, hard to beat really. But not so good from the factory. Bsfc was ****!

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Mr.T said:
you don't hardly ever see cat powered trucks 'across the pond' and i've been around them as a driver and mechanic for more than years, yet you're going to sit here and tell me my eyes are lying to me? get fukking real.
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How many Volvos have blown headgaskets, dropped liners, broke a crank etc. like those great Cats ? All I hear is injector sleeves (before update), and EGR valves. Which ones are more expensive failures ?
 
I know why Faulkner left here now...


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Mr.T said:
if you had ever experienced a tuned acert with the IVA's deleted, you'd be singing a different tune. especially an SDP or NXS
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Our tuned MXS was a BAD MF until we detached from the trailer one day and she dumped the coolant into one hole...bad sound sitting in a customers driveway and go to start the truck to hitch back up and she rolls once and thumps. We ran it about 8 months or so tuned like that before she let go...of course it already had 21K hours on it at that point, so not entirely unexpected.


BRE said:
I know why Faulkner left here now...


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LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Chris
 
BRE said:
I know why Faulkner left here now...


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literally the only reason I'm here is pure classroom boredom, once I get my certification and get back to work, I'll go back to lurking and almost never posting like I've done for the last couple years.

it gets old constantly being told cat engines have problems that I've literally never seen, and how great Volvo engines are. *insert gun in mouth*
 
BRE said:
I know why Faulkner left here now...


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Is he still butthurt that when I called him out on that isx turbo deal? Said you can't make power with VNT turbos that they were garbage and the very page before he was praising a guy for making 700 some odd hp to the wheels with a stock ISX turbo. I still have a chuckle at that!
 
Signature600 said:
Our tuned MXS was a BAD MF until we detached from the trailer one day and she dumped the coolant into one hole...bad sound sitting in a customers driveway and go to start the truck to hitch back up and she rolls once and thumps. We ran it about 8 months or so tuned like that before she let go...of course it already had 21K hours on it at that point, so not entirely unexpected.




LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Chris
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but......but.......but.......but........cats are JUNK!
 
Yea run your mouth about the guy that isn’t here... that has more knowledge in his phuckin change drawer than you have in your whole head. Idiot


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Leiffi said:
How many Volvos have blown headgaskets, dropped liners, broke a crank etc. like those great Cats ? All I hear is injector sleeves (before update), and EGR valves. Which ones are more expensive failures ?
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how many of those failures have I see on a cat? ONE, I have a good friend with a 900,000 mile BXS acert that developed a leaking headgasket, due to the high mileage we inframed it with the 16:1 industrial pistons and all the associated stuff, flashed in a good tune, backed off the IVA's, and kicked it out the door. 250,000 miles later averaging 5.5MPG toting 105,000 pounds in a W900L......what a complete pile of schit, right?
 
BRE said:
Yea run your mouth about the guy that isn’t here... that has more knowledge in his phuckin change drawer than you have in your whole head. Idiot


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