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Can someone shed real world pros and cons on running super singles instead of standard duals on tandem drives?
 
sootie said:
Can someone shed real world pros and cons on running super singles instead of standard duals on tandem drives?
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Tried them on 2 trucks, was a total waste of money. Not any lighter than LP22.5’s, did not last nearly as long and more expensive. The big weight savings they advertise is if you had 24.5’s with steel wheels and went to 22.5 singles with aluminum. A truck with any HP will destroy the singles fast and you will get stuck on a pile of wet cat chit.

We tried them on the truck and trailers (grain hopper) for weight savings. Ended up almost giving them away. I didn’t even want them on trailer lift axles. Some OTR trucks seem to have better luck but see them quite often sitting on the side of the road with a flat and a ruined wheel. They’re like the 6x2 crap they preach now, one of the trucks we had them on had a dead axle and that was even worse than the one with just the singles.

My advice is to give me half the money you would spend swapping and I’ll kick you in the nuts and you will be better off.
 
We're running them on 1 truck, lost about 600lbs over china recap little 24's. Drives the same as far as I can tell, this truck runs mostly on highway and only 150mi a day or so. It doesnt see much mud but from the little I've seen I wouldn't run them on a truck that's going to deal with off pavement driving much.

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jfaulkner said:
Tried them on 2 trucks, was a total waste of money. Not any lighter than LP22.5’s, did not last nearly as long and more expensive. The big weight savings they advertise is if you had 24.5’s with steel wheels and went to 22.5 singles with aluminum. A truck with any HP will destroy the singles fast and you will get stuck on a pile of wet cat chit.

We tried them on the truck and trailers (grain hopper) for weight savings. Ended up almost giving them away. I didn’t even want them on trailer lift axles. Some OTR trucks seem to have better luck but see them quite often sitting on the side of the road with a flat and a ruined wheel. They’re like the 6x2 crap they preach now, one of the trucks we had them on had a dead axle and that was even worse than the one with just the singles.

My advice is to give me half the money you would spend swapping and I’ll kick you in the nuts and you will be better off.
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Well, you probably didnt complete the package with lower fairiings, wheelcovers and a turbo wing. Activate your turbo 3000 and you wouldanever needed to hit the fuel island again
 
Rig Wrench said:
Well, you probably didnt complete the package with lower fairiings, wheelcovers and a turbo wing. Activate your turbo 3000 and you wouldanever needed to hit the fuel island again
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Never gonna happen. Over the summer I had my truck shining like a new penny. I put fuel in before I left that day and made a left turn out of my driveway shifted and stepped on it and in about 1 second I completely screwed my wash job. If you forget to put the fuel cap back on the wave of fuel that hits the back of the tank will give Old Faithful a run for its money. I swear in the mirror I saw fuel shoot 10’ in the air and made a huge mess. Now having seen first hand what fuel looks like dripping off everything from the sleeper back there is no way I want all that fuel saving crap on there making my tanks run over all the time.
 
sootie said:
Can someone shed real world pros and cons on running super singles instead of standard duals on tandem drives?
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I went from all aluminum 24.5’s, and lopro tires, to the small super singles and matching height lopro 22.5 steers on my Western Star. Weighed it, drove 6 miles, changed wheels, drove back to the scales and reweighed and had dropped 450 lbs.
I did it for weight savings because everything we did we got paid by weight.
Made zero difference on fuel mileage, didn’t handle any different on the road (I went with the offset ones) but they were horrible on sloppy mud that about all the dairy’s had. Duals would cut in and let you get down to the hard base and keep going whereas the supers would try to float.
I liked them for what I did, but sure don’t think everyone needs to run them.
I got 130-135,000 miles out of Michelin XDN2’s doing what I did. Last 12 months I hauled feed I was loaded 82% of the time, grossing 84,000-90,000 lbs, drove 95,000 miles, and would typically run 22-25 loads a week so I was into and out of a lot of rail sidings, feed mills, and dairy’s. Lots of turning etc.
 
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We switched our belt from duals to super singles and lost 400lbs.
We also went with them in hopes they would keep from sinking in soft fields so much. They were dirt cheap so we tried them.

We bought a tire pressure monitoring system though... tells us the temp and air pressure at all times because the weight kinda scares us with what we do. Turns, in and outta fields, dirt roads etc.

I’m loaded 50% of the time, and no lighter than 83k.


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jfaulkner said:
Never gonna happen. Over the summer I had my truck shining like a new penny. I put fuel in before I left that day and made a left turn out of my driveway shifted and stepped on it and in about 1 second I completely screwed my wash job. If you forget to put the fuel cap back on the wave of fuel that hits the back of the tank will give Old Faithful a run for its money. I swear in the mirror I saw fuel shoot 10’ in the air and made a huge mess. Now having seen first hand what fuel looks like dripping off everything from the sleeper back there is no way I want all that fuel saving crap on there making my tanks run over all the time.
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I hate it when that happens......
 
Found you guys dream truck! Wtf?
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Signature600 said:
400ish KW



Sold on Auction Time with a broken crank. Thankfully.




I found a Versatile with a bad engine a few weeks ago, really thought about buying it and dropping a 12V into, but it brought way too much for me.

Chris
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You remember what happened to that air cooled V12 truck from trucks and parts?
 
Won the mechanic lottery yesterday. 3 broken manifold studs and they all came out with a screwdriver.
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Getting 7/16 arp bolts next time like one of my other trucks.
 
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