Upgrading the track bar… 3g conversion?

bateman

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After lowering my truck the front axle is over to the passenger side a couple inches. I figure this might be a good time to buy an adjustable bar and also convert to a better frame side mount like the 3rd gen conversion.

Is the 3g conversion still the best option out there? Any of you guys got some first hand experience with what brands have worked well?

I’ve had great luck with my stock style Moog so far. 3 years and 100k miles and it is perfectly tight. I just don’t want to spend money on adjustable only to end up with a problem on the frame end mount.
 
Of all the motor sports I’ve been around or involved with I think the only thing that comes close to the robbery that is diesel parts would be aviation. I mean some of this stuff is ridiculous. Couple bends in some metal and let a crack head splatter some welds on and you got yourself a $300 part.
 

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The 3rd gen mount is a huge upgrade over the double jointed 2nd style.
 
Yea I’m familiar with the ball joint style end being shit. Certain year jeep Wranglers came with that style and it’s pretty bad. Mine has worked as it should but if I’m buying an adjustable I might as well buy the upgraded mount too.

Looks like they are all pretty identical. Just wondered if one brand is best. Looks like Synergy does not make one any longer.
 
I used the BD mount they used to sell.

It had a long diagonal support that tied into the crossmember.

If I had to buy another, I'd just get the cheap mount and weld the brace in.
 
Thanks guys. One other thing I’m curious of is my truck being lowered. One coil cut and I think it’s close to 2” lower. Wondering if I will be able to center the axle up. Would suck to spend that much and be in the same boat as I am now. I could always cut the tube down on the bar.

That thuren looks awesome. The only thing I don’t see is the tapered bushing that most come with that goes in the factory frame mount before inserting a bolt. Maybe it’s just not in the pic. Price is the same as the others I have looked at also.
 
Dang well I forgot how much the traditional track bar and conversion brackets. I figured Thuren would bump up the price from most as his design is much improved from them. Either way it's MUCH cheaper than any of the conversion brackets and the carli track bar I got.
 
I used a Thuren 3g track bar with the 16mm diameter bolt holes and used 5/8-18 grade 8 bolts. I welded some pieces of 1/4” flat bar on my axle end mount to reinforce the holes and gusset the mount. My frame end mount is something I made years back when I first went to a stock 3g bar. The Thuren bar is definitely a super stout part with zero play on either end, honestly I haven’t driven my truck enough since doing it, long arms and Synergy steering and I’m pretty sure not all the adjustments are dialed in exactly right to give an accurate review.
 
Im running a Solid State conversion bracket and a Synergy 3rd Gen trac bar on my 96.
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Good info guys thanks. Looks like I’ll pick one out after I see the bill for this front axle rebuild.

Howling, your twin truck still looking much better than mine haha
 

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Good info guys thanks. Looks like I’ll pick one out after I see the bill for this front axle rebuild.

Howling, your twin truck still looking much better than mine haha


Haha. Looks aren't everything. Your truck has character. Or, patina as the say in the antique world.
 
Haha. Looks aren't everything. Your truck has character. Or, patina as the say in the antique world.

Haha true. People clear coat trucks with paint in similar shape. Never understood that.
 
One thing I did notice about the Thuren bar is it doesn’t have very much deflection for your axle going forwards to backwards or rotating due to the frame end joint, it does have some but not much. Where as I think the Carli bar with a uniball on the frame end may have a little better deflection in those axis’s.
 
Seems like most of the brackets are the same. I’ll start studying the bars a bit better.
 
Sorry the Thuren bar can rotate just fine because of the axle end being a heim joint, it was limited just in the sense of your axle going front to back.
 
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