Pro 2.6 vs Street 2.6

Take away fuel cells, no weight boxes, removable weight bars only, no rear duals on SRW trucks, limit tire size on DRW trucks, no hood stacks, full body including tailgate and rear bumper, and full interior, even back seats, batteries in stock location, and hitch in stock location using an OEM style hitch in 2.6 and make 2.8 for all the above. I didnt get why we got rid of a good class heck Scheid always had a great showing of 2.8 trucks. Thats what happened was we allowed all this to go in 2.6. and got rid of 2.8. Now all the 2.8 guys are pulling in 2.6. We sure achieved alot there didnt we. Oh well I guess sh!t happens.
 
My main thing is Dan is the old winners took the new rules and found ways to not cut power. That fact will never change. So why must everybody follow the spending trail of these new rules. The top guys are still breaking the driveline so all it did was make us less serious pullers spend more. The top guys did not jump to 3.0 like originally talked about. And thats fine cause the 2.6 class is for serious pullers. I just dont understand how that helped anything. Next the 2.6 class will be outta hand and we will have these guys with super duper chargers making the same power while fitting in the 2.5 workstock class. There is no end to this.

But this thread is about bringing a street class back. There is a ton of people that want that. Power is hard to control so the rules must control the other pulling aspects and keep the street in it and keep the dedicated pullers in the dedicated class.


I agree with what you saying, and nobody is making anyone buy a $4000 charger.

I would be curious how they plan to control the power. Unless they say no air to water, no hoodstack, no ag pumps etc.
 
Why make everybody by a charger for something they just want to have fun with. There are so many people running silver bullet 66, BD super B 64, cheeta 66 style turbos and their is no point in making them buy a new charger. Thats what the 2.6 makes you do. Street class is open to individuality.Yes somebody will roll in with a Aroura 5000 turbo but so what.

It needs to be kept simple and turbo rules are not simple anymore
 
Why make everybody by a charger for something they just want to have fun with. There are so many people running silver bullet 66, BD super B 64, cheeta 66 style turbos and their is no point in making them buy a new charger. Thats what the 2.6 makes you do. Street class is open to individuality.Yes somebody will roll in with a Aroura 5000 turbo but so what.

It needs to be kept simple and turbo rules are not simple anymore

How does 2.6 make you buy a new charger?

Lets pretend that the current 2.6 class allowed stepped covers(which nadm does) then come in and watch one of the top trucks put 10+ feet on the rest of the field, that person has a $4000 non protrusion charger.

What will happen in the street 2.6 class is that someone will show up with a built engine, a $4000 turbo and clean house. Then everyone will be complaining again.

I am not against a street 2.6 class, I am just pointing out that someone will build a truck to the letter of the rule, come in and mop up the field and everyone will be crying foul.


All you have to do is look at every other form of motorsports, and most of the time it is money that wins.

Just because it started as grass roots, doesn't mean it won't change. Look at nascars beginnings.
 
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I would be greatly for a street 2.6. and a pro 2.6. I feel like most of your guys who were 2.8 didnt really want to get rid of your everyday kind of guy pulling in the 2.6 but they felt like they didnt have a choice. I think it turned into a lot more money than any of them thought itd be to go 3.0. If you create a street 2.6 you would have to take away hanging weight, ag gov's, possibly dual pumps, no dual tires unless its a dually bed, no fuel cells, no air to water, no hood stack, must have at least two seats inside and they be mounted. Now of course like zstroken said you'll have guys build right to the rules, but if you make the rules consistent enough your everyday guy can come in and at least have fun and compete. This years 2.6 class you better get some deep pockets if you feel like you can just go anywhere and hook and compete. Now im speaking of just my area because local pulls here see the likes of hallien, smoot, coppess, and a few others that tend to always place pretty darn well at big events. I dont feel like you make the street 2.6 where just any ol boy with a programmer on his vp44 truck can waltz in and get 3rd out of 15. but something better than workstock and limits the power. and gives you a noticeable difference between the two 2.6 classes
 
leave 2.6 as it as... add a 2.5 class instead of work stock with rules like this.
• Weight: 8000lbs. weight with driver included.
• Ballast: Ballast is permitted. Hanging front weights are prohibited. Ballast may be used in the bed of the truck. If used, ballast must be securely mounted to the bed.
• Batteries: The batteries must be securely mounted. They may not be located in the driver’s compartment or forward of the radiator core support.
• Body: The body must be an OEM truck body, including the full bed floor. The body must retain full sheet metal. Metal aftermarket hoods are permitted. Fiberglass is prohibited. The hood must be closed and securely latched while the vehicle is hooked to the sled. The complete OEM firewall and complete OEM floor pan is mandatory.
• Brakes: Four-wheel hydraulic brakes are mandatory.
• Chassis: The OEM chassis is mandatory. The engine must be in the OEM location for the body used. The vehicle must retain the full OEM chassis. Wheel tubs, back-half conversions, tube chassis, ect., are prohibited.
• Cooling System: Radiators must be in the stock location and be of at least stock size.
• Credentials: All drivers must have a valid state driver’s license.
• Driveline: An OEM transmission and transfer case is mandatory. They must have been an option on a one-ton or smaller pickup.
• Drivers Restraint System: The OEM restraint system is mandatory and must be worn.
• Driveshaft Loops: All trucks must have at least six inch wide u-joint shields around the rear u-joint constructed of at least ¼ STEEL OR 3/8 ALUMINUM that will safely contain the u-joint and the end of the rear shaft. All shields must be securely mounted to the vehicle. All front shaft u-joints that are visible from the side of the truck must be shielded to contain the u-joint and the end of the shaft.
• Engine: The engine is limited to a stock-appearing, OEM make-specific compression ignition engine.
• Exhaust: All vehicles must be equipped to direct the exhaust upward. The exhaust must exit rearward of the drivers compartment. Stacks exiting through the hood or fender well are prohibited. Two 3/8 inch diameter bolts must be installed through the exhaust pipe in a cross pattern within one inch of each other as close to the turbo as is practical.
• Fire Extinguishing System: A fire extinguishing system is permitted. It must be securely mounted.
• Fuel: The fuel must be pump #1 or #2 diesel only. Soy/Bio-diesel fuel is permitted. Off-road diesel fuel is prohibited.
• Fuel Injection Pump: The fuel injection pump is limited to a stock-appearing, OEM engine make-specific pump only. The use of multiple high-pressure common-rail fuel pumps is prohibited. Powerstoke engines with a single factory turbo may utilize a second HPOP. Pumps from different years in the same engine model may be interchanged.
• Fuel System: The OEM fuel tank is mandatory and must be used. Racing fuel cells are prohibited and must be removed from the truck.
• Harmonic Balancer: All engines turning 4500 RPM and higher must be equipped with a harmonic balancer or damper meeting SFI spec 18.1.
• Hitch: The hitch must be a receiver-style hitch; Reinforcements are permitted. Reinforcements must not extend forward of the centerline of the rear axle. Trick hitches are prohibited. The hooking point must be the rear-most point on the vehicle and must be rearward of the stock location of the tailgate. The hitch must be horizontal to the ground and stationary in all directions. Bumpers may not be notched or removed. The hitch’s height may not exceed 26 inches. The hooking point must have a minimum 3.750-inch inside diameter opening for the sled hook. The hooking point will be measured to the center of the clevis loop.
• Interior: A complete interior, including dashboard, door panels, headliner, ect., is mandatory. Two matching front seats are mandatory. Aftermarket seats are permitted; they must be fully upholstered. All factory controls (lights, signals, horn, windows, wipers, ect.) must be retained and be operative. The use of hand-throttle controls is prohibited.
• Rear End: Non-OEM rear-ends housings are prohibited. The rear end must have been an option on a one-ton or smaller pickup. Rear axle bolts must be covered by a cap or shield.
• Steering: The vehicle must retain the full, OEM steering gear. The vehicle must retain the original OEM power steering assistance, if it were so equipped. Additional stabilizers are permitted. Non-OEM power assist methods are prohibited.
• Street Equipment: Complete headlight and taillight assemblies (all) are mandatory and must be operative. Complete OEM windshields and windows are mandatory. Windows must be operative per factory specifications; that is, they must open and close via OEM electrical or mechanical means.
• Suspension Front: The upper mounting point for strut assemblies must be in factory location. Adjustable caster/camber pillow ball mounts are permitted. The lower control arm may be strengthened providing factory mounting points to chassis are maintained. The lower mounting point for the strut assembly may be modified for improved caster or camber. Strut tower braces, lower tie bars, sway bars, and limit straps are permitted. Traction bars and devices are permitted.
• Suspension Rear: An OEM-style suspension is mandatory. Lowering or raising the vehicles height with suspension modifications is permitted. Traction bars and devices are permitted; they must be bolt on only; welds are permitted for attachment to frame or axle housing. Control arms may be strengthened or replaced, provided all original mounting points are retained. Strut tower braces, lower tie bars, sway bars, limit straps, and camber kits are permitted. The rear suspension must allow at least one inch of travel. All rear suspensions must use at least one working shock absorber per wheel.
• Tires: The tires must be DOT street tires. Cuts are prohibited.
• Tow Vehicles: Tow vehicles are prohibited.
• Transfer Case: Non-OEM transfer cases are prohibited. It must have been an option on a one-ton or smaller pickup truck.
• Transmission Automatic: Non-OEM transmissions are prohibited. Aftermarket converters, valve bodies and internal components are permitted. Transmission brakes are prohibited. Any non-OEM floor-mounted automatic transmission shifter must be equipped with a spring-loaded positive reverse lockout device to prevent the shifter from accidentally being put into reverse gear. A functional neutral safety switch is mandatory. All transmission lines must be metallic or high-pressure-type hose. All vehicles with engines turning 4500 RPM or more and using an automatic transmission must be equipped with a transmission shield meeting SFI spec 4.1 and must be labeled accordingly. A blanket-type shield is permitted; it must be appropriately labeled as meeting SFI spec 4.1 and it must extend from the rear of the block to the front of the tail housing with a minimum six-inch overlap where it is fastened. All non-blanket-type shields must incorporate two (or one, per manufactures instructions) ¾ inch by 1/8 inch straps that bolt to the shield on each side and pass under the transmission pan unless the transmission pan is labeled as meeting SFI spec 4.1. All vehicles with engines turning 4500 RPM or more and using a automatic transmission must be equipped with a flex plate meeting SFI spec 29.1 and be covered by a flex plate shield meeting SFI spec 30.1.
• Transmission Manual: Non-OEM transmissions are prohibited. Aftermarket internal components are permitted. A clutch meeting minimum SFI spec 1.1 or 1.2 is mandatory on all vehicles with engines running 4500 RPM or more. All manual transmissions must be clutch assisted. Sequential shifters are prohibited. All vehicles with engines running 4500 Rpm or more and equipped with a manual transmission must have a flywheel shield labeled as meeting SFI spec 6.3 or greater. Applications for which an SFI spec flywheel shield is not available may use a properly attached SFI 4.1 or 4.2 blanket that completely covers the bell housing; it must be attached to the block and extended rearward to the transmission with a minimum six inch overlap where it is fastened.
• Turbocharger: The turbocharger is limited to a direct bolt on. No adapter plates allowed. T4 foot limit. With an inducer bore of 2.5 limit,with 1/8'' protrusion. measured with a 2.55 plug with zero tolerance. 6.4 liter powerstroke engines may utilize the factory compound-turbo configuration.
• Water Injection: Water Injection is prohibited. All system components must be unplugged or removed from the truck. Nitrous Oxide is prohibited along with other oxygen extenders and the use of Propane is also prohibited. All system components must be unplugged or removed from the truck.
• Wheelbase: The vehicle must retain the original factory wheelbase and track width. No dual wheels on single wheel trucks allowed.
 
Next year.... what do you guys think about dropping 3.0 and Work Stock, and dividing the 2.6 into Pro and Street Legal?

Sounds Great Gene! 3.0 is a HUGE step to be competitive! And after seeing Curt and Jake step down to 3.0....I think i'll build for 2.6. 3 yrs sitting and watching.............. I just cant take it anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
leave 2.6 as it as... add a 2.5 class instead of work stock with rules like this.
• Weight: 8000lbs. weight with driver included.
• Ballast: Ballast is permitted. Hanging front weights are prohibited. Ballast may be used in the bed of the truck. If used, ballast must be securely mounted to the bed.
• Batteries: The batteries must be securely mounted. They may not be located in the driver’s compartment or forward of the radiator core support.
• Body: The body must be an OEM truck body, including the full bed floor. The body must retain full sheet metal. Metal aftermarket hoods are permitted. Fiberglass is prohibited. The hood must be closed and securely latched while the vehicle is hooked to the sled. The complete OEM firewall and complete OEM floor pan is mandatory.
• Brakes: Four-wheel hydraulic brakes are mandatory.
• Chassis: The OEM chassis is mandatory. The engine must be in the OEM location for the body used. The vehicle must retain the full OEM chassis. Wheel tubs, back-half conversions, tube chassis, ect., are prohibited.
• Cooling System: Radiators must be in the stock location and be of at least stock size.
• Credentials: All drivers must have a valid state driver’s license.
• Driveline: An OEM transmission and transfer case is mandatory. They must have been an option on a one-ton or smaller pickup.
• Drivers Restraint System: The OEM restraint system is mandatory and must be worn.
• Driveshaft Loops: All trucks must have at least six inch wide u-joint shields around the rear u-joint constructed of at least ¼ STEEL OR 3/8 ALUMINUM that will safely contain the u-joint and the end of the rear shaft. All shields must be securely mounted to the vehicle. All front shaft u-joints that are visible from the side of the truck must be shielded to contain the u-joint and the end of the shaft.
• Engine: The engine is limited to a stock-appearing, OEM make-specific compression ignition engine.
• Exhaust: All vehicles must be equipped to direct the exhaust upward. The exhaust must exit rearward of the drivers compartment. Stacks exiting through the hood or fender well are prohibited. Two 3/8 inch diameter bolts must be installed through the exhaust pipe in a cross pattern within one inch of each other as close to the turbo as is practical.
• Fire Extinguishing System: A fire extinguishing system is permitted. It must be securely mounted.
• Fuel: The fuel must be pump #1 or #2 diesel only. Soy/Bio-diesel fuel is permitted. Off-road diesel fuel is prohibited.
• Fuel Injection Pump: The fuel injection pump is limited to a stock-appearing, OEM engine make-specific pump only. The use of multiple high-pressure common-rail fuel pumps is prohibited. Powerstoke engines with a single factory turbo may utilize a second HPOP. Pumps from different years in the same engine model may be interchanged.
• Fuel System: The OEM fuel tank is mandatory and must be used. Racing fuel cells are prohibited and must be removed from the truck.
• Harmonic Balancer: All engines turning 4500 RPM and higher must be equipped with a harmonic balancer or damper meeting SFI spec 18.1.
• Hitch: The hitch must be a receiver-style hitch; Reinforcements are permitted. Reinforcements must not extend forward of the centerline of the rear axle. Trick hitches are prohibited. The hooking point must be the rear-most point on the vehicle and must be rearward of the stock location of the tailgate. The hitch must be horizontal to the ground and stationary in all directions. Bumpers may not be notched or removed. The hitch’s height may not exceed 26 inches. The hooking point must have a minimum 3.750-inch inside diameter opening for the sled hook. The hooking point will be measured to the center of the clevis loop.
• Interior: A complete interior, including dashboard, door panels, headliner, ect., is mandatory. Two matching front seats are mandatory. Aftermarket seats are permitted; they must be fully upholstered. All factory controls (lights, signals, horn, windows, wipers, ect.) must be retained and be operative. The use of hand-throttle controls is prohibited.
• Rear End: Non-OEM rear-ends housings are prohibited. The rear end must have been an option on a one-ton or smaller pickup. Rear axle bolts must be covered by a cap or shield.
• Steering: The vehicle must retain the full, OEM steering gear. The vehicle must retain the original OEM power steering assistance, if it were so equipped. Additional stabilizers are permitted. Non-OEM power assist methods are prohibited.
• Street Equipment: Complete headlight and taillight assemblies (all) are mandatory and must be operative. Complete OEM windshields and windows are mandatory. Windows must be operative per factory specifications; that is, they must open and close via OEM electrical or mechanical means.
• Suspension Front: The upper mounting point for strut assemblies must be in factory location. Adjustable caster/camber pillow ball mounts are permitted. The lower control arm may be strengthened providing factory mounting points to chassis are maintained. The lower mounting point for the strut assembly may be modified for improved caster or camber. Strut tower braces, lower tie bars, sway bars, and limit straps are permitted. Traction bars and devices are permitted.
• Suspension Rear: An OEM-style suspension is mandatory. Lowering or raising the vehicles height with suspension modifications is permitted. Traction bars and devices are permitted; they must be bolt on only; welds are permitted for attachment to frame or axle housing. Control arms may be strengthened or replaced, provided all original mounting points are retained. Strut tower braces, lower tie bars, sway bars, limit straps, and camber kits are permitted. The rear suspension must allow at least one inch of travel. All rear suspensions must use at least one working shock absorber per wheel.
• Tires: The tires must be DOT street tires. Cuts are prohibited.
• Tow Vehicles: Tow vehicles are prohibited.
• Transfer Case: Non-OEM transfer cases are prohibited. It must have been an option on a one-ton or smaller pickup truck.
• Transmission Automatic: Non-OEM transmissions are prohibited. Aftermarket converters, valve bodies and internal components are permitted. Transmission brakes are prohibited. Any non-OEM floor-mounted automatic transmission shifter must be equipped with a spring-loaded positive reverse lockout device to prevent the shifter from accidentally being put into reverse gear. A functional neutral safety switch is mandatory. All transmission lines must be metallic or high-pressure-type hose. All vehicles with engines turning 4500 RPM or more and using an automatic transmission must be equipped with a transmission shield meeting SFI spec 4.1 and must be labeled accordingly. A blanket-type shield is permitted; it must be appropriately labeled as meeting SFI spec 4.1 and it must extend from the rear of the block to the front of the tail housing with a minimum six-inch overlap where it is fastened. All non-blanket-type shields must incorporate two (or one, per manufactures instructions) ¾ inch by 1/8 inch straps that bolt to the shield on each side and pass under the transmission pan unless the transmission pan is labeled as meeting SFI spec 4.1. All vehicles with engines turning 4500 RPM or more and using a automatic transmission must be equipped with a flex plate meeting SFI spec 29.1 and be covered by a flex plate shield meeting SFI spec 30.1.
• Transmission Manual: Non-OEM transmissions are prohibited. Aftermarket internal components are permitted. A clutch meeting minimum SFI spec 1.1 or 1.2 is mandatory on all vehicles with engines running 4500 RPM or more. All manual transmissions must be clutch assisted. Sequential shifters are prohibited. All vehicles with engines running 4500 Rpm or more and equipped with a manual transmission must have a flywheel shield labeled as meeting SFI spec 6.3 or greater. Applications for which an SFI spec flywheel shield is not available may use a properly attached SFI 4.1 or 4.2 blanket that completely covers the bell housing; it must be attached to the block and extended rearward to the transmission with a minimum six inch overlap where it is fastened.
• Turbocharger: The turbocharger is limited to a direct bolt on. No adapter plates allowed. T4 foot limit. With an inducer bore of 2.5 limit,with 1/8'' protrusion. measured with a 2.55 plug with zero tolerance. 6.4 liter powerstroke engines may utilize the factory compound-turbo configuration.
• Water Injection: Water Injection is prohibited. All system components must be unplugged or removed from the truck. Nitrous Oxide is prohibited along with other oxygen extenders and the use of Propane is also prohibited. All system components must be unplugged or removed from the truck.
• Wheelbase: The vehicle must retain the original factory wheelbase and track width. No dual wheels on single wheel trucks allowed.


But I have to build another charger. Waaa, waaaa.
 
I say no to 2.6 pro and a 2.6 training wheel class. I like what house is thinking on stepping up work stock instead.

That turbo rule would not work though IMO. Leaves it wide open still. Maybe an exducer rule??
 
Whats the problem boys? Askeered of a Rockwell and a drop box?

I think that is what happened.

I remember reading on here awhile back that some of the hottest 2.8 trucks were cutting back to 2.6 to save driveline as it is. Other than the up front cost of going ODL, I don't see why more guys aren't doing it. Aren't the 4 digit 2.6 guys chewing up some driveline as it is?
 
I think that is what happened.

I remember reading on here awhile back that some of the hottest 2.8 trucks were cutting back to 2.6 to save driveline as it is. Other than the up front cost of going ODL, I don't see why more guys aren't doing it. Aren't the 4 digit 2.6 guys chewing up some driveline as it is?

Some of us dont have the option, around missouri i can either go hook with 20 2.6/2.8 trucks, or i can go try and find a 3.0 hook and hope that 1 other person shows up to pull against. Not too fun.
 
I keep seeing people bringing up weight boxes, hoodstacks, and ag govenors in 2.6. Am I missing something? I just skimmed over the rules and those things aren't legal in the class. Not saying it's not happening, because I have seen 1 of those things in person at 2 NADM hooks this year.

I guess my question is, why are these guys being allowed to run? If I would have showed up with a hoodstack on my truck in 09, Gene would have either bounced my ass out of there or made me jump up. I don't see a reason to sub-divide the class.

Enforce the rules as they are written and posted on the NADM website. $.02

ETA: I looked at my 2.6 class pics, and I don't see any hoodstacks on the trucks I took pics of.
 
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Everybody complains about protrusion not dropping the HP, what would the class be with the billet wheels not clipped. Alot of the class last year was still using cast wheels in the bushing/stepped cover classes. Where would that HP be at with billet wheels and stepped covers.

ding,ding,ding,ding we have a winner!!!!
 
I keep seeing people bringing up weight boxes, hoodstacks, and ag govenors in 2.6. Am I missing something? I just skimmed over the rules and those things aren't legal in the class. Not saying it's not happening, because I have seen 1 of those things in person at 2 NADM hooks this year.

Please show us where the rules state weight boxes are illegal.

That text doesn't exist.
 
And you still don't get it. ding dong

Kev, give those guys some credit....it took a lot of work to come up with the most expensive HP reduction technique in history! LOL




This sport is slowly eating itself.
 
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