Ditching the intercooler

YOUNG GUNS15

YOUNG GUNS15

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Would ditching the intercooler be a big time negative on my truck? Currently the truck is getting a nice large set of compound turbos (475/hx82) and I don't have the cash for a nice intercooler. That can come later, my thoughts are that the stock intercooler will be a large restriction. Truck rarely tows anything, gets an occasional trip that ranges in the 600-800 mile range. I'm thinking that it won't hurt too much and I can also eliminate some boots that are prone to popping.

Ditch it or keep it?
 
YOUNG GUNS15 said:
Would ditching the intercooler be a big time negative on my truck? Currently the truck is getting a nice large set of compound turbos (475/hx82) and I don't have the cash for a nice intercooler. That can come later, my thoughts are that the stock intercooler will be a large restriction. Truck rarely tows anything, gets an occasional trip that ranges in the 600-800 mile range. I'm thinking that it won't hurt too much and I can also eliminate some boots that are prone to popping.

Ditch it or keep it?
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It will hurt more then you think. Without some form of cooling I doubt rings will last ect. On3 has a very affordable cooler like 600 bucks and has seen over 1200 hp
 
97rada said:
It will hurt more then you think. Without some form of cooling I doubt rings will last ect. On3 has a very affordable cooler like 600 bucks and has seen over 1200 hp
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This should be temporary, like only a 6 month deal. Until I've saved enough to get setup with a water to air and water injection.
 
YOUNG GUNS15 said:
This should be temporary, like only a 6 month deal. Until I've saved enough to get setup with a water to air and water injection.
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Gasket kits to replace a ring set or Pistons will cost more then that cooler. And easy to sell when the time comes
 
I thought intercoolers were only put in these trucks for emissions, the older cummins trucks that came without intercoolers were more efficient

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I'd think it'll run hot as **** if your gonna be running those compounds hard. I have the on3, holding up fine for a few years now. Did the stocker blow or something? I'd just keep running the stocker if its ok still.
 
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IT"S NOT A RESTRICTION! Bigger intercooler is just more efficient at cooling the charge air. Early Cummins didn't have an intercooler because they only made a hundred HP!
Without it you'll blow your motor! Run the stocker till it blows or you buy a better one!
 
You won't blow the engine just because you don't have an aftercooler...you'll possibly melt a piston if you let EGT's get out of hand....but people do that all the time with an aftercooler, too.

It's all about air density...the bigger chargers can make more air, cooler than a smaller set can...but a bigger set with an aftercooler is even better.

If you can package it, leave it...if you can't package it, watch EGT's, watch charge air temperature if you can, and tune your chargers to make efficient boost...not just high pressure.

There is a difference. Massive amounts of power have been made around 40psi with the right setup...push the same setup to 60psi and you won't always see a power increase. Tuning...

Chris
 
dangerous06 said:
IT"S NOT A RESTRICTION! Bigger intercooler is just more efficient at cooling the charge air. Early Cummins didn't have an intercooler because they only made a hundred HP!

Without it you'll blow your motor! Run the stocker till it blows or you buy a better one!
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You're an idiot...
 
Charge air temps get much higher with compounds than one thinks. With an intercooler your egts will be toasty enough. Don't compound the problem. Pun intended.
 
Leave the cooler. Like above compound air is hotter then a single. You need something to help keep the temps in check. That's why most big HP non cooled setups run water injection. I know on my small setup 64/ht3b my intake temps are under 100* cruising with or without a trailer. Without the cooler those numbers can creep into the 6-700 range depending on the setup. On my puller a single hx82 is close to 600* by itself. After the a/w it's down to 100*. If you want to ditch the stocker look into a cheaper a/w and circulate coolant from the radiator through it. At least it would be something other then straight from the chargers.
 
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BRE said:
You're an idiot...
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I was trying to be nice....

zfaylor said:
Charge air temps get much higher with compounds than one thinks. With an intercooler your egts will be toasty enough. Don't compound the problem. Pun intended.
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I would tend to agree, as I have seen that personally...however, knowing that it's something to be concerned with is better than being oblivious.

Chris
 
Signature600 said:
I was trying to be nice....



Chris
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Well, stating facts like you guys are with reasonable answers is one thing...
to say "you'll blow your engine" is another.
I try not to make it a point to be a d1ck but come on...
 
Hx82 on stock block with bpu... it's going to smoke like a F#%^*+€ train whether mat is 70* or 700*

I hope you can prove us wrong but the only place g trim holset stuff should be on is at the pulling track or race cars like Scheids or Robinsons rails.
 
It's all fun and games till it goes nuclear!
Blown engine is my opinion may be an idiots opinion but hey maybe i was to vague i thought melted parts was same as blown!
Guess i'll take my ball and go home now!
Bre you win you get the biggest dick award!
 
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