1988 Suzuki Samurai DIESEL SWAP WANTED

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1988Zuk

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Hello everyone. I have a beauty of a Zuk ready for a turbo diesel swap. Ideally i am looking for horsepower and torque that can take names as well as drive on the highway comfortably.

I am putting 32x11.5r15 Kumho Road Ventures on her for on and off road convenience.

This truck will be my everyday driver so i would like her to be comfortable around 75mph on the highway. I know a lot of Zuk owners are using the VW TDI motors and i did find one out of a 2006 Jetta 1.9T TDI that i can pick up but before i do, does the Duramax or Cummins heavier motors fit in the ZUK? if they do, are they too heavy for such a small truck? I love the sound of them!

BIG QUESTION : i am planning on buying the engine and before install i would like to, over the course of a few months, upgrade the engine, clutch and tranny. Can you provide parts for the recommended engine you've chosen.
 

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https://cumminsengines.com/repower

Look at the Cummins R2.8 if you are looking for more power and torque than a TDI engine.

If you are planning on using a TDI engine I would probably go with an ALH as the PD engine is problematic...

In my opinion a 6.6L Duramax or 5.9-6.7L Cummins is way too much weight and power for a Sammy!!!

Either way post up your results and swap build!!!
 
Chris Tobin said:
https://cumminsengines.com/repower

Look at the Cummins R2.8 if you are looking for more power and torque than a TDI engine.

If you are planning on using a TDI engine I would probably go with an ALH as the PD engine is problematic...

In my opinion a 6.6L Duramax or 5.9-6.7L Cummins is way too much weight and power for a Sammy!!!

Either way post up your results and swap build!!!
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What were these engines originally used in? One of these would be neat to use as most everyone uses a B.

To the OP, I'd think a Cummins 4BT would be the ticket. Parts are easy to come buy and will make great power. I don't think the TDI would be a bad option just not sure how a front wheel drive engine would work in a rear wheel drive vehicle.
 
RockinRam96 said:
What were these engines originally used in? One of these would be neat to use as most everyone uses a B.

To the OP, I'd think a Cummins 4BT would be the ticket. Parts are easy to come buy and will make great power. I don't think the TDI would be a bad option just not sure how a front wheel drive engine would work in a rear wheel drive vehicle.
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Guys put the TDI engines in Sammys a lot, seems to be a good combo. I think even a 4BT would be pretty heavy and the control of the CR R2.8 would probably be better off road...

I do not know what Cummins has used the 2.8L engine in previously... Supposedly this is the first or the Cummins Repower engines and others will be added in the future. I would imagine the R5.0 V8 and R6.7 I6 would be on the horizon...
 
I currently have a 1987 Suzuki samuria and i am in the process of gathering my motor swap parts up too
If you want a diesel look into VW diesels and acme adapters makes alot of the conversion parts
here is my 1.9 TDI motor
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Chris Tobin said:
Guys put the TDI engines in Sammys a lot, seems to be a good combo. I think even a 4BT would be pretty heavy and the control of the CR R2.8 would probably be better off road...

I do not know what Cummins has used the 2.8L engine in previously... Supposedly this is the first or the Cummins Repower engines and others will be added in the future. I would imagine the R5.0 V8 and R6.7 I6 would be on the horizon...
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2.8L Cummins Specs
Configuration: Inline 4 cylinder
Valvetrain: OHV
Weight: Approx. 475 lbs, not including emissions equipment
Horsepower: 210 hp @ 3,600 rpm
Torque: 385 lb-ft @ 1,800 rpm


4BT Cummins Specs
Configuration: Inline 4 cylinder
Aspiration: Turbocharged, non-intercooled
Valvetrain: OHV, 2 valves per cylinder
Weight: 745 - 782 lbs w/ oil


Dry weight of a 1.9 TDI (AHF) with AC and DMF (but no clutch) according to my digital scale is 361 lbs


jeep motor weights:
2.5L 4cyl, AX-5, and a NP231 weigh 540 lbs. The CG of the whole assembly is just about at the back of the engine block.
edit: (AX-5)
 
I wonder if the Mercedes diesel that everybody uses would fit? I know they'll go in tototas.

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I was thinking the same thing on the Mercedes engine. An OM606 or even one of the 605 inline 5 cylinders. The later years had aluminum heads, direct injection, and a mechanical A-pump will bolt right on.

After watching this though, the thought of a very street able 400HP from an A-pumped ALH engine would be my choice plus the adapter plates available now make everything a bolt in. Mechanically A-pump it and eliminate any wiring issues.

Brothers Toy @ Montfoort - YouTube
 
Bodacious said:
I was thinking the same thing on the Mercedes engine. An OM606 or even one of the 605 inline 5 cylinders. The later years had aluminum heads, direct injection, and a mechanical A-pump will bolt right on.

After watching this though, the thought of a very street able 400HP from an A-pumped ALH engine would be my choice plus the adapter plates available now make everything a bolt in. Mechanically A-pump it and eliminate any wiring issues.

Brothers Toy @ Montfoort - YouTube
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The mercedes are indirect up until the common rail years. om606,603,617, they are all indirect.

I wonder what the physical dimensions of a om606 is vs. a 4bt or the 2.8l.

The om606 can produce some serious power and has a stout bottom end, but they are not lugging machines, they like high rpm. So what you plan on doing with the sammy makes a difference as well.
 
mfsuper90 said:
The mercedes are indirect up until the common rail years. om606,603,617, they are all indirect.

I wonder what the physical dimensions of a om606 is vs. a 4bt or the 2.8l.

The om606 can produce some serious power and has a stout bottom end, but they are not lugging machines, they like high rpm. So what you plan on doing with the sammy makes a difference as well.
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Yea but they sound just like a revved up 6BT!!!!!!!!
 
I have a 87 sammi. I just started pulling the factory power plant and swapping to a 4 cyl Perkins and adding a turbo. Going to use the factory drive train. Transfer case has a 167% reduction upgrade.

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blkout said:
I have a 87 sammi. I just started pulling the factory power plant and swapping to a 4 cyl Perkins and adding a turbo. Going to use the factory drive train. Transfer case has a 167% reduction upgrade.

Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
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Which Perkins are you using?
 
not enoughsmoke said:
I currently have a 1987 Suzuki samuria and i am in the process of gathering my motor swap parts up too
If you want a diesel look into VW diesels and acme adapters makes alot of the conversion parts
here is my 1.9 TDI motor
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Eesh... You better never drive that thing on a rainy day. You'll be hydroplaning all over the road....

Is there anything special you have to do to change this from a front wheel drive motor to a rear wheel drive motor?
 
RockinRam96 said:
Is there anything special you have to do to change this from a front wheel drive motor to a rear wheel drive motor?
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You just remove the trans axle from the vw engine, then use an adapter to mate the vw engine to the zuki trans. The engine gets turned 90* from original placement in the vw. I'm sure there's a lot of other little things involved like specific starters and alike but that's the meat of it.
 
The 1.9 vw tdi is a very popular swap Bodie Armstrong did one a few years back he is a member here maybe he will chime in.. I myself just dont think its worth the effort ive owned half a dozen over the last couple years with various swaps and engine configurations.. the 1.6l, 2.0 or 4.3l v6 swaps trump all imo..
 
CREED1 said:
The 1.9 vw tdi is a very popular swap Bodie Armstrong did one a few years back he is a member here maybe he will chime in.. I myself just dont think its worth the effort ive owned half a dozen over the last couple years with various swaps and engine configurations.. the 1.6l, 2.0 or 4.3l v6 swaps trump all imo..
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What vehicle is the 4.3l v6 engine from and do they sell kits to install this engine in a Sammy? I am very interested in adding a turbo. Would you suggest that with this engine?
 
Space is limited with the 4.3 so I would say probably a no on the turbo.. The 4.3 was used in s-10 and jimmy suv's
 
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