H2O injection

Not meaning to split hairs but in the tipical A/W setup the tank isn't pressurized so wouldn't it be open ended? Not trying to say tortarted is correct just making a observation.
 
6.4 F-350 said:
Not meaning to split hairs but in the tipical A/W setup the tank isn't pressurized so wouldn't it be open ended? Not trying to say tortarted is correct just making a observation.
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I'm pretty sure dv was referring to turdinators terrible analogy of comparing a blown intercooler boot to a a2w system.

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Phuck. Hate to forward T-bag's point.... but a 40gpm fixed displacement hydraulic pump will provide no more pressure than a 40gpm centrifical low pressure pump PROVIDED the air to water core has very little restriction and there should be little restriction.

Open center hydraulics when no function is active does have a very low pressure, as opposed to closed center and full system pressure even at idle. (dead headed)

NONETHELESS: A fixed displacement pump as the coolant pump for your air to water is brain dead.
 
Joesixpack said:
Phuck. Hate to forward T-bag's point.... but a 40gpm fixed displacement hydraulic pump will provide no more pressure than a 40gpm centrifical low pressure pump PROVIDED the air to water core has very little restriction and there should be little restriction.

Open center hydraulics when no function is active does have a very low pressure, as opposed to closed center and full system pressure even at idle. (dead headed)

NONETHELESS: A fixed displacement pump as the coolant pump for your air to water is brain dead.
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I agree that it's a complete waste but could be done, that's all. He is still a know it all Jackwagon. And I think to argue the point the way he does is just not productive, the op observed something on a puller and had questions Jeremy gave him the correct answer bs insues. Argue no matter wat. Lol
 
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Joesixpack said:
Phuck. Hate to forward T-bag's point.... but a 40gpm fixed displacement hydraulic pump will provide no more pressure than a 40gpm centrifical low pressure pump PROVIDED the air to water core has very little restriction and there should be little restriction.

Open center hydraulics when no function is active does have a very low pressure, as opposed to closed center and full system pressure even at idle. (dead headed)

NONETHELESS: A fixed displacement pump as the coolant pump for your air to water is brain dead.
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A 40gpm electric pump turns at a constant rpm to flow 40gpm. A hydraulic pump turns at "x" rpm to flow 40gpm. Now make "x" 5000 engine rpms and what will it flow??????? The pumps I've seen turn no more then 2000 rpms
 
DISTURBED said:
A 40gpm electric pump turns at a constant rpm to flow 40gpm. A hydraulic pump turns at "x" rpm to flow 40gpm. Now make "x" 5000 engine rpms and what will it flow??????? The pumps I've seen turn no more then 2000 rpms
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Exactly. We are talking crank driven!! . Your bypass setup would need to flow 3,4,5 or more?? times the amount of what your actually putting to the intercooler at those rpms.


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DISTURBED said:
A 40gpm electric pump turns at a constant rpm to flow 40gpm. A hydraulic pump turns at "x" rpm to flow 40gpm. Now make "x" 5000 engine rpms and what will it flow??????? The pumps I've seen turn no more then 2000 rpms
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Jesus Christ you'd obviously gear it and flow it to the rpm's if you were stupid enough to use one.
 
Tormentor said:
As usual you're trolling and making wrong assumptions.
I never said they were not used for water injection. Any pump can be driven from a crankshaft.


What pressure? A/W circulation pumps need high flow, not pressure. Anyone that can build an air/air core to stand 100+psi boost can build the same for air/water as well.
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Nice back pedal, with a pile of more bullchit to dance around your misconceptions.


Saying that taking a restriction off of a high pressure pump will make it into a high flow pump is ludicrous. They are designed very differently and will have piss poor performance if you use them as stated in your back pedal cover ups.
 
Joesixpack said:
Jesus Christ you'd obviously gear it and flow it to the rpm's if you were stupid enough to use one.
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So you have a pump that is geared to handle 5500rpm but doesn't pump half of what you need at 3000? Yeah you can gear it to work but your shooting yourself in the foot.

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6.4 F-350 said:
Not meaning to split hairs but in the tipical A/W setup the tank isn't pressurized so wouldn't it be open ended? Not trying to say tortarted is correct just making a observation.
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While they are not purposefully pressurized, by function an intercooler core is a restriction as is the pluming. They are sealed, and do run pressure, albeit typically less then 5psi.
 
DISTURBED, you're obviously a plain ol' moron, I'm done dealing with you. Have a nice day.

ClamDigger4 said:
Yes I know nothing about hydraulics.
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Thats the gist of it.

I don't deal with This stuff.
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Then please, explain how you "don't" deal with a broken hose. What happens to the line pressure? What comes out of the hose? Do you still have 2000psi in the line, or does the pressure drop to near zero and all the oil gets pumped onto the ground?

dvst8r said:
How is a closed loop a/w setup open ended?
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What happens when you open the valve to fill your bathtub with water? Is the bathtub pressurized to 50psi like the water before the valve?

Seriously morons/trolls, if your intercooler water core is restrictive enough to make significant inlet line pressure, you either have an extremely large pump or you're extremely stupid.

Joesixpack said:
NONETHELESS: A fixed displacement pump as the coolant pump for your air to water is brain dead.
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Nobody ever said what kind of pump was seen. It very well could have been a centrifugal pump or rubber vane pump (like a marine raw water pump).
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6.4 F-350 said:
He is still a know it all Jackwagon.
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I don't know it all, and have never claimed to. If I did I would be answering every thread here. I just know more than many of the trolls here.

straight 6 roar said:
Nice back pedal
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What backpedal? I had to simplify and expand my explanation for you idiots to understand. An example to follow;

Saying that taking a restriction off of a high pressure pump will make it into a high flow pump is ludicrous.
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I never said that, you're making an assumption.
 
All that matters is gpm at < 5 psi...and most hydraulic pumps dont have it.

Tormentor...why dont you just make a point instead of of being a total jackazz.

Your theory is correct...but you have not appplied it or given a single fact. I will do it for you later after i open myy pump catelog...
 
Tormentor said:
No, just the dumb people. It is a fantastic idea to use a raw water pump to circulate water through the intercooler core. No electric, durable, cheap and rebuildable.
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Do it then!!!

As for dependable I have ran the same rule pumps in the 8 different patrol boats for over 3 years while I was running them. I ran one for over 4 hours strait on two different occasions. Kept my stuff from sinking!

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Did not intend for my question to turn into a sheeite storm. I was looking at a very fast set-up from georgia at the rudy's race. The geardriven pump on the front of the motor, I just assumed it was for the H2o injection. I specialize in killing swordfish and tuna, not H2o injection. lol.....
 
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