This is why I don't like religious threads. There are to many different opinions, some more vocal than others. You guys can talk all you want, just leave the Personal attacks out.
I don't understand. Wade, are you going over to these other boy's threads and preaching at them?I've opened up this new area just for Diesels for Christ.
There was a boy who became King of his country, lets say India, at a very young age, lets say 10 years old. The Queen of England came to visit him and the boy liked the Queen so much that he gave her the most valuable treasure that his country had, lets say it was the Hope Diamond.
20 years later the boy King, now a man, went to England to visit the Queen who was dying. Shortly after the King arrived he requested to see the diamond he had given the Queen. The Queen's people were scared that the King wanted to take the diamond back to his country because he had not realized it's worth when he was 10.
The King took the diamond in his hand and looked it over for several minutes and then told the Queen "I gave this to you when I was very young and could not understand it's worth. Now that I am a man and can appreciate how valuable this gem is I wanted to look at it again. Now that I have seen it and can fully appreciate it's beauty and it's worth, I give it to you once again."
Wade....what about doing like someone else said to me and do the thing where you dedicate your children to the lord...and let them make their own decision at a later date.
And from my girlfriend...if you let your son be saved now, he is saying he FULLY understands everythign that goes along with it...sins and all. SO what happens if, and I wouldn't wish this on anyone, he sins and then passes away at a young age? Has he not invalidated the age of accountability that may have given him a pass to heaven by being saved at 5?
You're not getting it....by doing all of those things you are "leading" him....he cannot understand something of this magnitude. He's not emotionally developed enough to....that's a fact.
If this is something you wanna do right, and I assume you do as it's your son we're talking about...how about you and your wife discuss his ability to comprehend this with a child developement specialist?
See what a professional has to say about his ability to comprehend this big thing at such a young age.
On a side note...he's 5...what could really be happening in a 5 year old's life that he needs saving from? Let him get anouth 10 years under his belt and get closer to an age where he can make his own decisions about religion and it's place in his life. All he's doing right now if something he thinks you want so you'll approve of him. I'd bet getting off the internet and playing with him and a baseball would accomplish the same thing.
Diesel Power,It sounds like you have done a vary good job with your boy.I am happy for you both.Your son will be fine.He is learning from Gods word and his earthly dad.Step one to me is not getting saved.Step one is the willingness to learn.He clearly has that down.So yes, if he feels clear on what Jesus did for him on the cross,and why Jesus had to go through it and more importantly that Jesus was raised from the dead.He could be ready.Did you ask him why he wants to get saved?
:thankyou2:Why do all of us heathens insist on getting invovled in a thread, in a section (DFC) where we have no business?
I have made my stance on these things clear in other threads...but if it's in the DFC section, I keep my nose out of it. Till now, and that's simply to say, STFU and not foul up the DFC section when you clearly have NO business. It's like saying Cummins is better in the D-max section. Get over yourselves and leave the section in peace. You wouldn't walk into Wades, or any others church and drop a duece on the front pew, would you????
Wade, I hope you, your son and the rest of you family make the best decsions for all of you.
It's an open forum that I Moderate....I'll post in here at will.
A counter point of view hurts nothing....and for once I'm talking to Wade instead of bashing him. That's gotta count for something.
Why at 5 years of age? Because tomorrow "could" be his last day .... and even if it were not and i "waited" and kept "pushing it off"
Blinded by religion....a 5 year old cannot possibly, no way in hell understand the concept of someone being raised from the dead. Children that age don't even comprehend death....much less the reversal of it.
I actually feel sorry for a kid who's parents would allow this to happen.
Force YOUR beliefs on them from birth then actually believe that they reach these conclusions on their own?
You have GOT to be kidding me.
5 year olds believe in Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, etc...
Why ? Because we TOLD them to.
Same reason your son believes in God...you TOLD him to.
He's NOT OLD ENOUGH to make his own decisions.
There it is in your own words...you're the one that wants this to happen...not him. Teach him what you will, but don't lead him into doing something he can't comprehend.
And 5 is well below the generally accepted age of accountability of 13. Your son is 5....he has a free pass.
If your son makes a commitment without having to make any changes in the way he lives, meaning that he's not old enough to be into any serious sins
For the record. I do not know Wade nor have I ever met him, I've never bought a thing from him and I've never once talked to him other than making a direct post here. I was brought up in a christian home and was brain washed at a young age. I speak from first hand experience so take it for what it's worth.
Personally i wish i got saved sooner, i would not have done half the things i did. im ashamed of my past, but Christ has brought me thru that, now i have a future to look forward to.
I put my trust and security in The one and only infalable Jesus Christ. Christ has never left my side nore will he. The bible says i can do ALL things through Christ which strengtheneth me, This i truely believe, and live it daily.
My son see's the evidence of Christ in my life and he wants what i have, besides it's a free gift...Why woulden't anyone want it. We dont deserve it, but Christ freely gives it to us, because he loves us. All we have to do is Believe, Repent, Accept, your life will change before your eyes. Christ has changed my life 360*.....And im alive to tell about it! Amen to that.
I've tried real hard to understand religion and why people make these types of choices. Threads like this make me realize why I could never be religious.
but, to be saved you need to fully under..... never mind.
You win!...Nothing else will change in his life, he will still be a kid and do things kids do...
All sin is serious in the eyes of God - and it's His opinion that counts.
While it's annoying to get a sermon in the general discussion section of a diesel forum, i find it somewhat comical that people go out of their way to click into a diesels for Christ section and blast people for their religious goings ons. If it was the Ford section and a chevy guy came in and started bashing Fords, how would it be handled?
If it was the Ford section and a chevy guy came in and started bashing Fords, how would it be handled?