DieselWrencher
6cyl Vette
It is coming together very nicely. Keep up the great work!
Rebirth of Monster Mudder
- Thread starter NakeDiesel
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NakeDiesel
Smoke'n in the Mud
Thanks.
Took the weekend off and us and another couple rented a cabin down in South Eastern Oklahoma. Drank some beer, found a local brew I liked called bigfoot brown. Ate some pizza at Grateful Head pizza... Before I left friday, was able to get the front frame back on stands, removed the front tires and dropped the axle to full drop minus 1/2" to find mounting spots for the limit straps. Tonight after getting home and getting some more seeds started in our little green house tent and some planted directly into the raised beds, I started sanding on the molds. I have the rear fender mold finally sanded down and ready to shoot primer on it. One front fender is about half done and the other front needs 95% sanded on it. Went through a ton of 80 grit paper tonight, it just gums up the paper.
Took the weekend off and us and another couple rented a cabin down in South Eastern Oklahoma. Drank some beer, found a local brew I liked called bigfoot brown. Ate some pizza at Grateful Head pizza... Before I left friday, was able to get the front frame back on stands, removed the front tires and dropped the axle to full drop minus 1/2" to find mounting spots for the limit straps. Tonight after getting home and getting some more seeds started in our little green house tent and some planted directly into the raised beds, I started sanding on the molds. I have the rear fender mold finally sanded down and ready to shoot primer on it. One front fender is about half done and the other front needs 95% sanded on it. Went through a ton of 80 grit paper tonight, it just gums up the paper.
NakeDiesel
Smoke'n in the Mud
Managed to get the two front fenders sanded down to get the gummy gelcoat off of them. I don't know how much sand paper I went through, but it was a lot. I don't have finger prints left and made a couple of fingers bleed.... Put my paint gun together, wiped down the fenders and shot 2 coats of primer on them. I saw a few spots that I will need to fix so I will need to pickup some finish putty tomorrow.
EnduringAtlas
New member
I don't have any first hand experience with fiberglass of carbon fiber but I have heard of people laying out vinyl over their forms. Wondered if you've tried this method?
Keep up the hard work, following this build is awesome and I can't wait to see how you do this racing season!
Keep up the hard work, following this build is awesome and I can't wait to see how you do this racing season!
NakeDiesel
Smoke'n in the Mud
Well hopefully it won't disappoint. That might be fun, but you'd probably whip my butt with my heavy pig....
Haven't heard of laying out vinyl on the forms, will look into it. Hoping a couple of days of wet sanding and light filler work and I will have these 3 forms ready to try and make a CF part this Friday. Then I can get busy on the grill mold in finishing it off.
Haven't heard of laying out vinyl on the forms, will look into it. Hoping a couple of days of wet sanding and light filler work and I will have these 3 forms ready to try and make a CF part this Friday. Then I can get busy on the grill mold in finishing it off.
NakeDiesel
Smoke'n in the Mud
Remaining todo list...
Coaltrain to do list:
install front limit straps
clean inside cab of truck
make carbonfiber rear fenders
make carbonfiber front fenders
make carbonfiber grill
make hood
make mount points for one piece front end
cut off old mounts
paint or wrap hood and grill
attach front fenders to hood/grill
make new exhaust pipe / hood stack
pickup exhaust housing for turbo
install exhaust housing on turbo
weigh truck
adjust traction bars
reweigh truck
adjust traction bars
etc..
Also need to use some spray foam and fill in a few areas that just seem to stay full of mud during the season and get it painted over as well as touch up a few places I missed when painting components.
Coaltrain to do list:
install front limit straps
clean inside cab of truck
make carbonfiber rear fenders
make carbonfiber front fenders
make carbonfiber grill
make hood
make mount points for one piece front end
cut off old mounts
paint or wrap hood and grill
attach front fenders to hood/grill
make new exhaust pipe / hood stack
pickup exhaust housing for turbo
install exhaust housing on turbo
weigh truck
adjust traction bars
reweigh truck
adjust traction bars
etc..
Also need to use some spray foam and fill in a few areas that just seem to stay full of mud during the season and get it painted over as well as touch up a few places I missed when painting components.
NakeDiesel
Smoke'n in the Mud
Was late getting home tonight, since I had to stop and get finish putty, run by the bank, meet up with my wife to see her for a few minutes as we crossed paths and a run to wally world to get coffee filters.... While there bought 2 cherry trees and 2 plum trees. Got home and ate supper then dug 4 holes after I figured out where I wanted them planted in the back yard. I now have the creek line at the back of my main yard totally filled in with spaced out fruit trees, 2 of each, apple, peach, pear, plum and cherry. Also have 9 pecan trees to one side as well.
Finally got out in the shop and tried wet sanding with 400 and it wasn't cutting it enough, so went down to 120 grit and got 1 front fender mold fully wet sanded out with guide coat on it to find all the lows and pin holes. Mixed up a couple of small batches of finish putty and got it on the fender before calling it a night at 10.
Corn is really starting to come up. Went through and planted pole beans in with the corn stalks as they are coming up so the beans will grow up the corn stalks
A few beans and peas are starting to show themselves as well
Finally got out in the shop and tried wet sanding with 400 and it wasn't cutting it enough, so went down to 120 grit and got 1 front fender mold fully wet sanded out with guide coat on it to find all the lows and pin holes. Mixed up a couple of small batches of finish putty and got it on the fender before calling it a night at 10.
Corn is really starting to come up. Went through and planted pole beans in with the corn stalks as they are coming up so the beans will grow up the corn stalks
A few beans and peas are starting to show themselves as well
NakeDiesel
Smoke'n in the Mud
The previous two nights, was out in the shop just sanding and sanding on those molds. Finally got them where they looked good about 11:30 last night. Planned on getting out there this morning and get the primer shot on them, well that didn't happen. Got a call from my son about 10 mins after he left for work and his truck died on him. The solenoid on his ve pump quit. So I grabbed a chain and went and dragged his truck back to the shop. Finally got the primer shot on the molds then and had to do some other stuff around the house while the fumes died down.
Managed to get the brackets for the limit straps welded onto the truck and then got the area cleaned and ready to paint with por15. I also broke out the cans of spray foam I had bought to fill in some areas that just fill up with mud. The areas I attacked with the foam are the trans cross member openings on the under side, the cross member in the bed area that is kinda u shaped and then all of the bottom of the open frame from the high part down to the boxed area. Then started cutting and trimming it till I got it to kinda slope some and flush with the frame. Then broke out the por 15 and got the brackets painted, a few places I'd missed and a first coat on the foam. Will have to do one or two more on the foam as it absorbs some of it.
Managed to get the brackets for the limit straps welded onto the truck and then got the area cleaned and ready to paint with por15. I also broke out the cans of spray foam I had bought to fill in some areas that just fill up with mud. The areas I attacked with the foam are the trans cross member openings on the under side, the cross member in the bed area that is kinda u shaped and then all of the bottom of the open frame from the high part down to the boxed area. Then started cutting and trimming it till I got it to kinda slope some and flush with the frame. Then broke out the por 15 and got the brackets painted, a few places I'd missed and a first coat on the foam. Will have to do one or two more on the foam as it absorbs some of it.
Bodacious
Comp Diesel Sponsor
We did the foam thing once. Found out it holds more water than you think having all the air between the molecules. If a fella could figure out a way to completely seal the surface after filling the voids, it may reduce the amount of water the foam will hold.
No good answer exist for the crevices that seem to always get mud packed in them. We have tried to build to eliminate these issues. You will notice the faster you get, the less mud you actually collect. Once we started getting on top, we hardly ever seen any more of the thick stuff.
I'm gonna load up the welding equipment and bring it to UCC. You may have to man the tig torch if someone needs some welding as my son will not be attending this year.
NakeDiesel
Smoke'n in the Mud
Yeah, I know it will hold water, but I've done my best to seal it between silicone and painting it with por 15, not much else I can do. I have the whole boxed frame filled with foam and went over all the openings with silicone and then painted over that.
One of these days I'll be fast enough to get on top, slowly working towards it.
I've never tigged before, watched it done but never have myself. One of these days I'll get the accessories I need for my MP unit to start playing with it.
Had to get up at 5am yesterday to go cook breakfast for our american legion breakfast fund raiser we put on once a month and then we had Turbo's first birthday party here at the house. I did manage to sneak out to the shop and tie up the front brake lines and bolt on the limit straps. Today, wet sanded the 3 molds, they are looking much better but had to shoot another coat of primer on them today so they are sitting till tomorrow and I will wet sand them again with 400 and see where they are at. Got the front tires back on the truck after I cleaned them up a little bit and then aired all 4 tires up and got it off of the jack stands. First time it's been on all 4 tires in 3 or 4 months I think. Last thing I did today was hook up the throttle bracket and linkages and put on the shutoff cable.
Fri night got a call and my daughter and her BF hit a deer in her little beer can, going to have to replace the hood, headlight and atleast front fender and maybe door.
One of these days I'll be fast enough to get on top, slowly working towards it.
I've never tigged before, watched it done but never have myself. One of these days I'll get the accessories I need for my MP unit to start playing with it.
Had to get up at 5am yesterday to go cook breakfast for our american legion breakfast fund raiser we put on once a month and then we had Turbo's first birthday party here at the house. I did manage to sneak out to the shop and tie up the front brake lines and bolt on the limit straps. Today, wet sanded the 3 molds, they are looking much better but had to shoot another coat of primer on them today so they are sitting till tomorrow and I will wet sand them again with 400 and see where they are at. Got the front tires back on the truck after I cleaned them up a little bit and then aired all 4 tires up and got it off of the jack stands. First time it's been on all 4 tires in 3 or 4 months I think. Last thing I did today was hook up the throttle bracket and linkages and put on the shutoff cable.
Fri night got a call and my daughter and her BF hit a deer in her little beer can, going to have to replace the hood, headlight and atleast front fender and maybe door.
kubotaorange76
New member
that is one bad truck
crackerman
New member
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The spray can crap at lowes is open cell, it absorbs water.
Closed cell spray foam.
No water intrusion.
The spray can crap at lowes is open cell, it absorbs water.
NakeDiesel
Smoke'n in the Mud
kubota, thanks.
crackerman... that's some expensive stuff, I've looked at it before, but think that the way I coat the foam in por15 or silicone prevents much water from getting into it.
Had an extra 2 hours of driving yesterday as I had to run to a salvage an hour+ south of Tulsa to pickup paint matching parts for my daughters car. Ended up sanding out in the shop once I got home till after 11pm to finish the 3 fender molds with 120, 180, 320, 400 and finally 800. I went out this morning and shot color on them. They aren't perfect, but think they will work for what I'm doing. Will start wet sanding them tomorrow night after I get home from work down to 2000 grit. Then I need to start settiing up to make the cf parts.
I did see something cool tonight, driving after a torrential downpour and hail to the legion meeting and had the end of a rainbow moving just ahead of us on the side of the road.... no pot of gold though. Damned leprechauns.
crackerman... that's some expensive stuff, I've looked at it before, but think that the way I coat the foam in por15 or silicone prevents much water from getting into it.
Had an extra 2 hours of driving yesterday as I had to run to a salvage an hour+ south of Tulsa to pickup paint matching parts for my daughters car. Ended up sanding out in the shop once I got home till after 11pm to finish the 3 fender molds with 120, 180, 320, 400 and finally 800. I went out this morning and shot color on them. They aren't perfect, but think they will work for what I'm doing. Will start wet sanding them tomorrow night after I get home from work down to 2000 grit. Then I need to start settiing up to make the cf parts.
I did see something cool tonight, driving after a torrential downpour and hail to the legion meeting and had the end of a rainbow moving just ahead of us on the side of the road.... no pot of gold though. Damned leprechauns.
NakeDiesel
Smoke'n in the Mud
Got a good bit done tonight after I got home from work. All 3 molds are wet sanded with 320, 800, 1000, 1500 and 2000 grit papers. They aren't perfect, but should work for a mud truck.
Opened up my rolls of materials tonight and setup my cutting table. Cut out material for the first rear fender mold. Got out the new vacuum pump that's been sitting on the self for months, put oil in and started getting the hoses and catch can plumbed to them. I need to pick up a couple of 1/4" pipe fittings tomorrow to finish them up, but as is it pulls and holds -25" of vacuum.
Also got 2 coats of wax on the rear fender mold. Will put one more coat of it on in the morning and then start the layers of pva
Opened up my rolls of materials tonight and setup my cutting table. Cut out material for the first rear fender mold. Got out the new vacuum pump that's been sitting on the self for months, put oil in and started getting the hoses and catch can plumbed to them. I need to pick up a couple of 1/4" pipe fittings tomorrow to finish them up, but as is it pulls and holds -25" of vacuum.
Also got 2 coats of wax on the rear fender mold. Will put one more coat of it on in the morning and then start the layers of pva
DieselWrencher
6cyl Vette
Those molds are looking great. I hope that por painted foam works for you. That stuff attracts moisture so bad, I'd rip it out of there and tack some sheet metal over the frame in the middle there or anything other than filling it with that home foam. I've seen that stuff rust out frames really quick. Granted the liquid rust here doesn't help it at all. Haha
NakeDiesel
Smoke'n in the Mud
The por15 coated foam has worked pretty good in the boxed part of the frame. It's been in there for over 3 years now.
Today was a day of apply layer and wait. I've gotten 3 layers of wax on all 3 molds and 5 layers of pva on the rear fender mold and 3 on the two front molds. I should be able to get the rear fender laid out and made tomorrow. Had to spend some time this evening covering planter boxes with plastic as there is a chance of a slight freeze. I also decided since I'm not going to get the CF grill made or new hood, I would make a new center section of the grill, it's the heaviest part of it. Total grill weighed 59lbs, the center section weighed around 28 to 30lbs. My new center section weights 6lbs. I made it out of some 1/8" strap and then covered it in aluminum sheet. I have the sheet on it and bolt holes drilled. Need to drill some holes on each side and add some pop rivets.
Today was a day of apply layer and wait. I've gotten 3 layers of wax on all 3 molds and 5 layers of pva on the rear fender mold and 3 on the two front molds. I should be able to get the rear fender laid out and made tomorrow. Had to spend some time this evening covering planter boxes with plastic as there is a chance of a slight freeze. I also decided since I'm not going to get the CF grill made or new hood, I would make a new center section of the grill, it's the heaviest part of it. Total grill weighed 59lbs, the center section weighed around 28 to 30lbs. My new center section weights 6lbs. I made it out of some 1/8" strap and then covered it in aluminum sheet. I have the sheet on it and bolt holes drilled. Need to drill some holes on each side and add some pop rivets.
NakeDiesel
Smoke'n in the Mud
Busy freaking weekend. Friday picked up our Tshirts, Coozies and Stickers and talked to Scott about making me a wrap for the center of the grill. Think it will turn out great. Also started making CF parts friday. I got the first rear fender made that night. Saturday, I did the color run with my wife that morning, 3.1 miles I think, I let her set the pace and we walked with a bit of running. Then it was home and out to the shop where I got one of the front fenders setup and the second front fender cut out. I got the epoxy into the first front fender Sat night and today I got the epoxy into the 2nd front fender and started prepping the rear fender mold to make the 2nd rear fender. I've been learning a lot as I go on these and each one seems to turn out a little better or work better. Still fighting vacuum leaks, even resorted to using a stethoscope to try and find them...
Today, my wife helped me out and cleaned up on the inside of the cab, it's looking much better. She's 5'5" tall and couldn't believe I could get in and out of the cab at 6' 4" tall. Cleaned up the edges of the one rear fender and marked and drilled holes in it to put it on the truck and mark where to trim the ends up at and then I can get the edges sanded.
Also cleaned up the grill outer shell on the inside and outside and started putting it on the truck. Cleaned up the inside of the hood, one side was covered in mud and the other side a nice black mud/soot coating. Broke out my little sheet metal brake and bent 2 ends of the new cover for the enter section, need to get it on lighter frame and clamp those two ends on still and then bend the two shorter sides.
Coozies and stickers
checking for air leaks
Figured out I need a different type of tubing, this stuff collapses too easy
Some new wall art
Rear fender, not perfect by any means, had a dry spot in it that I think I've fixed, think it will work though
Laying out front fender
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2nd front fender
Trying rear fender on
grill on the truck
cleaned up hood
Today, my wife helped me out and cleaned up on the inside of the cab, it's looking much better. She's 5'5" tall and couldn't believe I could get in and out of the cab at 6' 4" tall. Cleaned up the edges of the one rear fender and marked and drilled holes in it to put it on the truck and mark where to trim the ends up at and then I can get the edges sanded.
Also cleaned up the grill outer shell on the inside and outside and started putting it on the truck. Cleaned up the inside of the hood, one side was covered in mud and the other side a nice black mud/soot coating. Broke out my little sheet metal brake and bent 2 ends of the new cover for the enter section, need to get it on lighter frame and clamp those two ends on still and then bend the two shorter sides.
Coozies and stickers
checking for air leaks
Figured out I need a different type of tubing, this stuff collapses too easy
Some new wall art
Rear fender, not perfect by any means, had a dry spot in it that I think I've fixed, think it will work though
Laying out front fender
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2nd front fender
Trying rear fender on
grill on the truck
cleaned up hood
NakeDiesel
Smoke'n in the Mud
Just getting in for the night from the shop. The last rear fender is setup and epoxy sucked into it. Will let it sit till tomorrow night or weds night.
Installed the front mount for the hood with the cone bolts I picked up so they mount flush with the grill. Once that was in, I put the hood on and connected the grill supports and got the hood fully on.
Trimmed up both front fenders and took the passenger side and mocked up where it's going to go. Now I need to find a piece of aluminum or steel to build the mount out of that spans from the grill to the firewall. Will figure that out tomorrow.
Installed the front mount for the hood with the cone bolts I picked up so they mount flush with the grill. Once that was in, I put the hood on and connected the grill supports and got the hood fully on.
Trimmed up both front fenders and took the passenger side and mocked up where it's going to go. Now I need to find a piece of aluminum or steel to build the mount out of that spans from the grill to the firewall. Will figure that out tomorrow.