Turbo Flow Rates

[oldsmokey97]

Do you have any idea what the 64mm compressor would light at?

My 64/14 lights right at about 1500-1600 give or take.
But, it takes a while to get from 0 to 12 psi or so, but when i gets there, it shoots up to around 57 almost instantly.

DOES ANYONE HAVE OR KNOW WHERE A TURBO MAP FOR A 64/14 IS AT??

Lance

 

[Trapper]

:hump: so pretty.

bnraond.

I think i have seen one in variable vane:st:

 

[97Rebel]

B-1 data?

take this with a grain of salt, but i found it to be intresting

Model Compressor Turbine
Holset H1D 1.85 2.165
Holset H1D 1.969 2.165
Holset H1D/E 1.969 2.165
Holset H1D/E 2.047 2.165
Holset H1D/E 2.126 2.165
Holset H1C/E 2.126 2.244
Holset H1C/E 2.283 2.244
Holset H1C/E 2.126 2.362
Holset H1E 2.205 2.362
Holset H1E 2.283 2.362
TS04 2.300 3.304
60-1 2.324 3.000
Holset H1E 2.362 2.559
Holset HX40 2.362 2.559
T-61 2.382 3.544
62-1 2.441 3.000
Holset HX50 2.48 2.835
T-64 2.490 3.670
T-66 2.580 3.584
Holset HX50 2.638 3.031
Holset HX55 2.638 3.031
T-70 2.720 3.850
Holset HX55 2.835 3.031
T-72 2.840 4.030
T-76 3.020 4.030

Any one have the compressor and turbine sizes for a standard B-1?

 

[97Rebel]

Any one have the compressor and turbine sizes for a standard B-1?

Anyone?

B-1 = Compressor 62mm? Turbine ??mm?

 

[KTA-Cummins]

The posted S510 info is wrong. The inducer is 95mm or 3.75" not 132mm.

 

[RacinDuallie]

S-500 has been preceeded by the S-510:kick:

The S-510 can be had with inducer wheel sizes from 86 mm to 95 mm:rockwoot:

And there is a newer bad boy unit called the S-95:aiwebs_029:

The S-95 can be had with inducer wheel sizes from 95 mm to 104 mm:woohoo:
Both use a .472 shaft.....

Any info on the B-52?

I am also looking for info on the Garrett Thumper Turbos too now if anyone is sitting with that info:lolly:


oke: oke:

As told to my by Jose @ Forced Inductions......

 

[Trapper]

So are the SuperPhatShaft and HTT pro 71s still a S300?

 

[Rods]

really nutten new

Compressor wheel

Inducer Exducer Trim

62mm 84.6mm 54

62mm 84.6mm 54

66mm 92.7mm 51

66mm 92.7mm 51

68mm 101.9mm 45

70mm 101.9mm 47

71.8mm 101.9mm 50

71.8mm 101.9mm 50

71.8mm 101.9mm 50

Turbine Wheel

Inducer Exducer Trim

76.3mm 67.6mm 79

76.1mm 66.7mm 77

76.3mm 67.6mm 79

76.1mm 66.7mm 77

83.4mm 74.3mm 79

83.4mm 74.3mm 79

80mm 73.4mm 84

83.4mm 74.3mm 79

95.8mm 88mm 84

 

[GO 4LO]

The S595 is an S5 frame 95mm inducer turbo. The S510 is S5 frame 110mm inducer. The S510 has a 132mm major diameter comp wheel - that's where the confusion probably came from... Plus the fact that PDW lists it as a 132mm inducer on their site.

Also, when I put together the list that was posted way up top, those were general numbers. There are so many variations of each turbo available that the spread for each turbo is huge. Mix that with the fact that a lot of folks swap BW wheels into Holsets, etc., and it's very hard to keep a concise list. Mine has grown unwieldy at this point....

Chris

 

[RyanB]

I was talking to Paul at HTT yesterday about getting a larger turbo for my twin setup. My small charger is a Sled Puller 66/14 with a highly modified wastegate that he built for me. It is similar to the Pro-Street 66's wastegate.

My fuel is pushing 750cc's and my HT3B isnt nearly big enough. He said a good match would be there Super4C....anyone else ever heard of this or know anything about it? he said its based of an HT4B with a few mods and pretty much equal to that of a Big Brother.

Any Info?

RyanB

 

[2wpuller]

I have a ht4c with a 26exhaust that I,m puton my brothers 1st gen.with a hx35/14 with a teil wastegate hope these work out.give me some oppinions.

 

[Rods]

38mm gate ?

 

[2wpuller]

It is a 40 my brother got it off ebay.He has pod inj.4"exhaust,we are going to have KTA do some mods and put one of his pump heads on for us as Soon as I get a pump off of another motor we have so he can drive it to work.He as 365hp now with just minor pump adjustments.that was on Floorit Diesel dyno.
Dale

 

[GO 4LO]

My fuel is pushing 750cc's and my HT3B isnt nearly big enough. He said a good match would be there Super4C....anyone else ever heard of this or know anything about it? he said its based of an HT4B with a few mods and pretty much equal to that of a Big Brother.

Any Info?

RyanB

IIRC, theirs is an 84mm inducer turbo - that's all the info I've got on it. It is comparable to a 'Big Brother' turbo. Some midwestern shops have been using 4c's for years, and you can modify them to push a lot more air than a Big Brother if needed.

The 4c isn't a bad match for a 66mm S300. Could go a bit bigger on the primary if you wanted to, though...

Chris

 

[GO 4LO]

It is a 40 my brother got it off ebay.He has pod inj.4"exhaust,we are going to have KTA do some mods and put one of his pump heads on for us as Soon as I get a pump off of another motor we have so he can drive it to work.He as 365hp now with just minor pump adjustments.that was on Floorit Diesel dyno.
Dale

Depends on the exact config of 4c you got, but it ought to work okay. A 3b or small S400 would have been matched a little better for running below the 35 on a first gen. If he was pushing more fuel, the 4c would be a good primary to match to a 62-66mm secondary...

Let us know how it does.

Chris

 

[2wpuller]

Depends on the exact config of 4c you got, but it ought to work okay. A 3b or small S400 would have been matched a little better for running below the 35 on a first gen. If he was pushing more fuel, the 4c would be a good primary to match to a 62-66mm secondary...

Let us know how it does.

Chris

Thanks I will let you know as soon as we get all the goodies on.:st:
Dale

 

[Trapper]

ANy pics of that 4C?

 

[RascalMafia]

modified guys run s4/hc5a or s4/hx82's around these parts...

 

[RyanB]

Well, I finally got my Super 4C from HTT last week and just now was able to take some pics of it. There is a HUGE size difference from the 4C and the HT3B although it doesn't really look like it in the pics (tried to do the best comparision pics as I could). Just a little bit of info...after talking to Dave at HTT he said that there Super 4c's will no doubt out-flow a Big Brother with the mod's that they do to it.

Anywhere, here are a bunch of pics of it and the HT3B.

You should be able to tell which turbo is which...any questions just ask!

Now its just a matter of putting the 4C on the truck beside my HTT SledPuller 66 and the HT3B beside my brothers HTT HTB2/64

Also, about the animals...I a Turbo Diesel nut so I named the Cat "TURBO" and the Black Lab "DIESEL" I laugh my A$$ off everytime my wife calls them...Turbo...Diesel!!!!!

RyanB

 

[Turbonetics TQ]

I'd like to know why ball bearings are better....... and WHY the ceramic style should be better? I just can't seem to trust bearings made with ...er...clay?

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Turbonetics’ unique patented Ceramic Ball-Bearing concept that has essentially eliminated any concern of turbocharger durability in high performance applications. The heart of this concept is a NASA inspired angular ball-bearing fitted with almost indestructible ceramic balls. The thrust capacity of this design is rated at over 50 times greater than conventional turbocharger thrust bearings!

"The proven success of this concept is evidenced by its overwhelming use in high-performance competition today. Equally important is the unique use of a single ball bearing instead of two - the decision to retain a conventional shaft bearing on the turbine end was made as a result of computerized model analysis of the high-speed rotordynamics of the rotating turbocharger.By retaining the bushing-style turbine-end bearing, it acts as a shock absorber and dampens the critical frequencies that typically plague dual-bearing designs used by other manufacturers. As a result, only turbochargers equipped with the Turbonetics Ceramic Ball-Bearing design have no destructive critical frequencies over their full operating range! No other ball-bearing design can make this claim! Faster response, extreme durability, and unsurpassed quality all combine to make the Turbonetics Ceramic Ball-Bearing concept the standard of excellence for the ultimate in high-performance turbocharging!"

In most cases the Creramic Ball Bearing requires 50% !! less energy to drive the turbo when compared to a standard bearing.