Big turbo, big injectors, big problems

i have a friend w/ 275's and the insanity turbo. Thats a HUGE turbo. Better call suncoast and get a higher stall convertor. That will be the ONLY way to spool that charger from a launch. Now if your cruising down the road you might be able to lite the charger if you ease into the throotle and build boost slowly. Do you have the complete fuel system with a new lift pump? .....because that will be needed. That turbo is way to be big for the street.
 
according to elit's site the insanity isn't much bigger than an ats a5k, mine drives fine but i think the injectors are too big for the hpop system, the customer has more money than he knows what to do with, he is already building a complete motor to be installed next season and doesn't care if he can only drive this truck once in a while, it has a fass pump and complete return system
 
talk to Bob Riley at the dieselsite.com. He has a modified HPOP that will work for your customer. I believe Elite sells it aswell.
 
Chad, when I talked to Bob in Steele, he was telling me that they were still having some issues with it dropping off at higher RPM's with larger injectors. Do you know if he has solved that problem yet?
 
lubeowner said:
I have read the this post a couple of times and just can't figure out what soot is. Do you mean lawsuit?

I also don't follow the the bolded part either.

Not trying to be an ass I just don't understand your post, sorry.
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well... soot- coal, ash, black smoke. soot. haha
I'll explain what I mean too... on the injectors, Elite uses a newer nozzle to size their injectors. I'm thinking that even though it is a 225cc Injector in "name" and what I ordered were 225cc injectors, it is flowing fuel like a 275cc injector would because the nozzle end has more of an opening than would be needed. That's all I was saying.

sorry for my post being a bit bland if it was.
 
Dalpilot said:
Chad, when I talked to Bob in Steele, he was telling me that they were still having some issues with it dropping off at higher RPM's with larger injectors. Do you know if he has solved that problem yet?
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yep..talked with Bob in Gainesville this past Saturday..said they still have some issues..my buddy has Cass's 250's and the stock HPOP and it cannot keep up with them at all.


I would say with 295's and the stock HPOP it will be a no go..
 
Last time I talked to Bob, he mentioned that they are having problems keeping up with the 430's but it would hold at the lower cc'ed injectors. I don't remember what mark he said.

He had, also, mentioned that because of the limited space, that is probably going to be the best pump possible without doing a remote mount or twin pump setup.
 
I am not opposed to a remote mount, if I could find a system that could supply the pressure I need, that would be an option, there just doesn't seem to be anyone out there, nor anything in development at the moment.
 
No Adam, and you'll have to talk to Cass about the size. He told me, I will have a "HUGE" set of injectors.
 
Why don't you just buy a 7.3 twin pump and bolt it on as a belt driven unit? Then I would think you could just get rid of the whole stock pump. Think how much room you would have for a big turbo if you moved that pump.
 
It sounds like you are running out of high pressure oil like others have said. Mine ran the same way with 295 injectors in it with Bobs pump. I am running high birds in my truck right now to maintain oil pressure. Since i have got it back i have put on almost 13,000 miles on it 8 truck pulls 2 dyno events and dragged raced it 3 times and pulled many loads with it. I can not be happier with my truck. Yes my truck is going back to Elite this winter to get twin HPOP's on it with the injectors i originally purchased. Sorry to hear about your problems. Lubeowner is correct that pipe on the other guy's twins is a updated one to maintain the stock bottle for antifreeze. The twin kits have a sequence order to bolting up so everything fits. With my setup and 4:30 gears i am still getting 18mpg hand calculated.

Dan
 
how is your part throttle drivability ? this thing sucks !!! with erics tune or any other it just poors smoke out !! i've beeen tuning it with sct pro race for about 6 hrs now got it going good no breaking up but i think the converter is way to tight to let it spool it's an ats stalling @ 1600
 
xcablb7 said:
I put elite 255 inj, return regulated fuel system and an insanity turbo on my friends truck it now soots like crazy, won't spool, and egt's are @ 1600. also it cranks forever before it starts. i couldn't get in touch with elite to get a tune for the sct, but it's like that with any tune or any level of the banks six gun
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Probably banks problems. Although seeing one of their trucks run 35 seconds in the 1/4 mile....maybe both congrats elite youve made another POS
 
Boy, haven't been on the forums for awhile. Well I looked into this and I assume that you must be Samson's truck. You purchased the 295's and our insanity turbo. The pieces purchased definitely require other mods to make it all work. The 295's will require a better high pressure pump and the turbo will require a stage 2 converter. These items are listed right in the descriptions on the website, not like we hid this information so you wouldn't know what you needed to make it a complete combo. The A5K is not the same turbo, has a smaller turbine and when put on a 6.0 is even worse. The A5K on a 6.0 requires a 2500 stall.

Also I jumped everyone here about not helping you and no one has taken a call or message from anyone at Samson's truck. There was a message from a guy all pissed off that we didn't answer the phone to help him and then he didn't leave a message, is that you? How can we help a customer if he won't leave a message with a number? Believe me someone will get there A$$ ripped if they took a message and didn't help you but from what I have gathered you must not have left a message.

As far as the truck with compounds, Walt Barker, we have been in contact with his shop and we are helping him.

As most people on here know, when you try to piece a kit together there is a learning curve, that is why we tell you what pieces you need to make it work. If you don't use those pieces then don't expect the performance. If the truck will only stall to 1600 then you are over a 1000 rpm shy. I have put some many converters in my truck trying to get it right, then I found the one that works and we offer it. Using a converter other than what we recommend obviously wont give the same results.

I can be reached at 719-647-0232 ext 7 if you'd like to call me.

Tadd
 
just got off the phone with tadd he cleared up quite a few issues i had with elite diesel, he's sending me some tunes and is working on some upgades for the hpop system and will call me as soon as it's ready for release. new converter will be here this week and we'll see how it goes. at least i'm starting to get some answers
 
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