These rule threads go full retard real quick, never fails.
So the current 3.0 guys will have to buy new...
Turbo
Injection pump(will need at least 1150-1200cc)
Bigger tips for injectors
Cut tires(probably 2 sets if you are really serious,1 set on truck 1 set in trailer)
New wheels(again 2 sets)
Rockwell in front(Maybe)
With the power the 4.1's will produce the non-decks engines will never live.
That is a LOAD of money that most will not spend. I'm sure there are things I am missing from that list, that is just off the top of my head. Yes I know you don't have to buy all the upgrades to run the class but you WILL if you want to compete. If you can't compete why go and waste time and look like a fool 40+ft back. This would be a class killer IMO.
So the current 3.0 guys will have to buy new...
Turbo
Injection pump(will need at least 1150-1200cc)
Bigger tips for injectors
Cut tires(probably 2 sets if you are really serious,1 set on truck 1 set in trailer)
New wheels(again 2 sets)
Rockwell in front(Maybe)
With the power the 4.1's will produce the non-decks engines will never live.
That is a LOAD of money that most will not spend. I'm sure there are things I am missing from that list, that is just off the top of my head. Yes I know you don't have to buy all the upgrades to run the class but you WILL if you want to compete. If you can't compete why go and waste time and look like a fool 40+ft back. This would be a class killer IMO.
the two options we should explore I believe are
a. leave turbo rules alone and go open driveline 2.6 cut tire 3.0
b. replace 2.6 with open driveline smooth bore 3.0 and replace 3.0 with cut tire smooth 4.1
this would allow the lower level 3.0 guys to drop back. the cost of the current 3.0 isn't just the engine its the fact that's its basically a national level class and the cost to follow the silver series is much greater than the Midwest or western regional circuits.
I believe a lower hp open driveline class could be very successful state level and regionally
the two options we should explore I believe are
a. leave turbo rules alone and go open driveline 2.6 cut tire 3.0
b. replace 2.6 with open driveline smooth bore 3.0 and replace 3.0 with cut tire smooth 4.1
this would allow the lower level 3.0 guys to drop back. the cost of the current 3.0 isn't just the engine its the fact that's its basically a national level class and the cost to follow the silver series is much greater than the Midwest or western regional circuits.
I believe a lower hp open driveline class could be very successful state level and regionally
These a two VERY good options.
What is the reasoning for the cuts and bigger chargers in 3.0?
This sounds like a great idealthe two options we should explore I believe are
a. leave turbo rules alone and go open driveline 2.6 cut tire 3.0
b. replace 2.6 with open driveline smooth bore 3.0 and replace 3.0 with cut tire smooth 4.1
this would allow the lower level 3.0 guys to drop back. the cost of the current 3.0 isn't just the engine its the fact that's its basically a national level class and the cost to follow the silver series is much greater than the Midwest or western regional circuits.
I believe a lower hp open driveline class could be very successful state level and regionally
a. leave turbo rules alone and go open driveline 2.6 cut tire 3.0
b. replace 2.6 with open driveline smooth bore 3.0 and replace 3.0 with cut tire smooth 4.1
2.5 oem driveline bed stacks
2.6? open drive bed stacks
3.0? cut tires oem chassis
superstock
I struggle with the idea of allowing open driveline in 2.6", I can see allowing any rear axle, but at what point is it going to end? Just seems to me that lowering the hitch is a real solution that would cost virtually nothing to most competitors.
Like I stated before you don't have to spend the money to still be competitive.
Spend money on ring and pinions, or spend money on a different axle, you still spend money. Lowering the hitch could alleviate this for little to no cost, saying you don't have to go to a different rear axle to still be competitive doesn't solve the real issue.
I think everything should be smooth bore that away turbo guys cant rape us.