Truckers, lets see your rigs!

SmokinCAT said:
Actually he is telling you if you didn't haul cheap freight you wouldn't be worried about pinching pennies.

How many trucks do you run in your fleet again?
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Not pinching pennies. Fuel is my largest cost. And I don't haul cheap either I'd rather sit at home. Nice try. One truck for now not that it matters.
 
zfaylor said:
If you have all of the answer please explain to us why your 60 series that can supposedly walk on a 550 cat is getting so hot? Meanwhile many of us have customers running their 60 series at the 500+ power levels everyday without the need for water injection. I ignored you statement on wanting to going to a VGT turbo with very good reason.
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1) I never said walk.

2) I said it got hot in the summer and I've made changes. Runs good now. I will be pulling a hill soon and will post results.

3) never said water meth was a crutch for running hot. However, running at high elevation it would be helpful for any truck.

4) what's wrong with vgts? Just like wastegates they get a bad reputation because they're associated with emissions engines.
 
chevota84 said:
Exactly, fuel mileage isn't the only number. If you drive 10mph under the speed limit to save 10$ on fuel and end up sitting all weekend when you could have been moving, you just shot yourself in the foot. I'm not a big fan of hanging out in truck stops.

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Of course there's a time and place. That's not what I'm talking about.
 
allan5oh said:
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4) what's wrong with vgts? Just like wastegates they get a bad reputation because they're associated with emissions engines.
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No, they're associated with failures. Emissions might play a part in it, but failure is a pretty big drawback.

Chris
 
Signature600 said:
anything look remotely aerodynamic?
Chris
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Not going to quote your whole post. I do a lot of similar stuff at times. I've done 6+ mpg pulling 40 foot upright headers.

As horsepower load increases, any fuel saving technique or what have you gets multiplied. Slowing down for example. You're correct it isn't linear. An 8 mpg truck isn't going to gain as much as a 5 mpg truck sowing down from say 70 to 65.
 
Signature600 said:
No, they're associated with failures. Emissions might play a part in it, but failure is a pretty big drawback.

Chris
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That's true too but that doesn't mean the concept is flawed. I wouldn't dream of putting a series 60 egr variable turbo on anything, but the newer asymmetrical turbos from detroit are neat. They're actually from mercedes but don't tell anyone that.

As far as a wastegate, having an external one that is electronically controlled is interesting. Nothing like the junky internal wastegates. Oh perhaps I've revealed too much?
 
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I have data!

Two different hills east of Billings on 90. Both about 5.5% grade.

Temp 75 f
Speed 47 mph
75k gross with a load that catches wind
10th gear at 1650
Elevation was 3500 and 4500, 2nd one was a bit cooler
Egt 920 f max, wasn't rising either
Oil temp in the sump hit 190
Coolant temp crept up to 195-200
Fuel rate is approx 28 gph. I will update this later after some math

I'd like to think those egts are acceptable, what do you guys say?

I'm not sure if the coolant rising like that is ok. I could see my rad needing to be changed.

Oh and this little adventure I had in winter when it was -30. Fuel rate would've been over 30, boost around 40, 65mph straight up an 8% grade at 50k gross

Flying up supertest at 50k gross - YouTube
 
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allan5oh said:
That's true too but that doesn't mean the concept is flawed. I wouldn't dream of putting a series 60 egr variable turbo on anything, but the newer asymmetrical turbos from detroit are neat. They're actually from mercedes but don't tell anyone that.

As far as a wastegate, having an external one that is electronically controlled is interesting. Nothing like the junky internal wastegates. Oh perhaps I've revealed too much?
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You mean the turbos from Mercedes that are $7000+ from the dealer and 90 days out most of the time? Those are a blast to have as a truck driver. Those aren't VGT but OK.


Which VGT flavor are you after? The Holsets that are $5000+, the Garretts that are a flaming pile from the 60 series, the holsets from the 60 series that are $5000+, the Borgs from the Macks that are bombs, the holsets from the mack that are $5000+, the borgs from the DT engines that are complete bombs, or????? Sounds like you have a lot of wise business decisions to ponder.
 
I posted my data earlier. I drive fast, haul heavy and blow chit up. And mine is more accurate than yours.

Friend texted me his "data" the other day. "Left Monday at 5pm got home Wednesday at 2pm. 42hrs 1056mi $4320, roughly $800 in fuel and never was more than 350mi from home". That was hauling 3 total loads. That is how you measure "efficiency" not your trucker magazine math. Left last night to do it again. When you can gross $6-7,000 a week and never spend more than 2 nights in the truck we don't give a chit about your "data"
 
zfaylor said:
You mean the turbos from Mercedes that are $7000+ from the dealer and 90 days out most of the time? Those are a blast to have as a truck driver. Those aren't VGT but OK.


Which VGT flavor are you after? The Holsets that are $5000+, the Garretts that are a flaming pile from the 60 series, the holsets from the 60 series that are $5000+, the Borgs from the Macks that are bombs, the holsets from the mack that are $5000+, the borgs from the DT engines that are complete bombs, or????? Sounds like you have a lot of wise business decisions to ponder.
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Almost makes you appreciate an ACERT eating both at once...at least then you feel better about buying 2 at once for $6K or so...


jfaulkner said:
I posted my data earlier. I drive fast, haul heavy and blow chit up. And mine is more accurate than yours.

Friend texted me his "data" the other day. "Left Monday at 5pm got home Wednesday at 2pm. 42hrs 1056mi $4320, roughly $800 in fuel and never was more than 350mi from home". That was hauling 3 total loads. That is how you measure "efficiency" not your trucker magazine math. Left last night to do it again. When you can gross $6-7,000 a week and never spend more than 2 nights in the truck we don't give a chit about your "data"
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That's a good gig if you can land stuff like that.

Our trucks don't move for less than $500...if we haul for someone else, even if it's 20 mile...

We don't own them to try to go make money, we own them as a necessary evil to move our equipment when we need it moved, not when a driver can get to us.

Chris
 
zfaylor said:
You mean the turbos from Mercedes that are $7000+ from the dealer and 90 days out most of the time? Those are a blast to have as a truck driver. Those aren't VGT but OK.


Which VGT flavor are you after? The Holsets that are $5000+, the Garretts that are a flaming pile from the 60 series, the holsets from the 60 series that are $5000+, the Borgs from the Macks that are bombs, the holsets from the mack that are $5000+, the borgs from the DT engines that are complete bombs, or????? Sounds like you have a lot of wise business decisions to ponder.
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The newer ones are about $2400 canadian but they aren't true vgts you are correct. Borg warner actually made on of the flavors for a while. Instead they have asymmetrical hot side snails so what you do is redirect flow between the two sides. It also has an axial flow turbine. How many turbos are we running that have those? Detroit claims mpg gains with this turbo. The problem is they have more than a few different flavors and I can't find info on them. No specs or compressor maps. I don't even know if they have a t6 flange.

However I'm planning something that's actually more elegant. Cheap, reliable, etc.
 
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jfaulkner said:
I posted my data earlier. I drive fast, haul heavy and blow chit up. And mine is more accurate than yours.

Friend texted me his "data" the other day. "Left Monday at 5pm got home Wednesday at 2pm. 42hrs 1056mi $4320, roughly $800 in fuel and never was more than 350mi from home". That was hauling 3 total loads. That is how you measure "efficiency" not your trucker magazine math. Left last night to do it again. When you can gross $6-7,000 a week and never spend more than 2 nights in the truck we don't give a chit about your "data"
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Last month I was never gone from home for more than 3 days and took home just under 20k after fuel and insurance.
 
This is as bad as a political argument. Not one party is going to give and agree with what the other is saying.

After all this is a picture thread, right?!

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Any of you Cat guys located in Ohio? Got a 6nz I need an out of frame overhaul done to. Would like to put 800 cam and slightly larger injectors in. Working around Massillon.
 
ISO '70s Peterbilt owners manual the one with the red binder. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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allan5oh said:
I have data!

Two different hills east of Billings on 90. Both about 5.5% grade.

Temp 75 f
Speed 47 mph
75k gross with a load that catches wind
10th gear at 1650
Elevation was 3500 and 4500, 2nd one was a bit cooler
Egt 920 f max, wasn't rising either
Oil temp in the sump hit 190
Coolant temp crept up to 195-200
Fuel rate is approx 28 gph. I will update this later after some math

I'd like to think those egts are acceptable, what do you guys say?

I'm not sure if the coolant rising like that is ok. I could see my rad needing to be changed.

Oh and this little adventure I had in winter when it was -30. Fuel rate would've been over 30, boost around 40, 65mph straight up an 8% grade at 50k gross

Flying up supertest at 50k gross - YouTube
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Are you a distant relative to Leiffi???
 
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