Clutch questions

BRE

BRE

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Ok... I wanna make this very clear up front. I hate these threads more than most but I cannot make up my mind. Therefore I apologize before hand.

I am torn on clutch choice for my truck.
I'm either going with a 3800# ceramic dual disk Valair (diaphragm style), or a triple disk.

The truck is only tuned right now, however I wanna go farther with the truck when I can.
I essentially plan on going to a 467 single, and essentially that's it.
I have a tendency to do stupid things, so I need a clutch that will take the occasional abuse I may put it through.
As far as use, the truck is just a driver. Pulls a trailer couple times a year that's worth mentioning.
Like I said, essentially, the trucks a mild driver (as far as this forum is concerned), however I like to be stupid sometimes, that can involve stuff on the street and I've contemplated trying to pull a little this year just for giggles.

I do not want a lever style clutch so I'm stuck between the non sfi 3800 or the triple disk.

Truck details:
07 3500 Crew cab
Has an h&s on it at this exact moment, Ben's tunes will likely be on the way by Friday for it.
It's heavy, and is a dually. 285's, steel flatbed.
Flame away or ask questions and help, I'm ready for either version.
 
BRE said:
Ok... I wanna make this very clear up front. I hate these threads more than most but I cannot make up my mind. Therefore I apologize before hand.

I am torn on clutch choice for my truck.
I'm either going with a 3800# ceramic dual disk Valair (diaphragm style), or a triple disk.

The truck is only tuned right now, however I wanna go farther with the truck when I can.
I essentially plan on going to a 467 single, and essentially that's it.
I have a tendency to do stupid things, so I need a clutch that will take the occasional abuse I may put it through.
As far as use, the truck is just a driver. Pulls a trailer couple times a year that's worth mentioning.
Like I said, essentially, the trucks a mild driver (as far as this forum is concerned), however I like to be stupid sometimes, that can involve stuff on the street and I've contemplated trying to pull a little this year just for giggles.

I do not want a lever style clutch so I'm stuck between the non sfi 3800 or the triple disk.

Truck details:
07 3500 Crew cab
Has an h&s on it at this exact moment, Ben's tunes will likely be on the way by Friday for it.
It's heavy, and is a dually. 285's, steel flatbed.
Flame away or ask questions and help, I'm ready for either version.
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I have ran both, towed with both.
For what it is, the tripple is a nice clutch, but shes a little slow on the shifts and you i could feel the power loss when the tripplw went in.
Hope this helps.

Either way both are a great choice. You can definitely club thw tripple and it loves every minute of it.

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I currently have a SB 3850. Has ceramic and organic faces. Been in truck for 4 years, roughly 45k miles of sled pulling, trailer pulling and driving. I absolutely love it. The 3850 plate load is rough in traffic but not horrid.

I will be replacing it with a valair when it gives up life. Hoping they have something similar with organic and ceramic faces.

Maybe Dan will chime in here.
 
MufflerBearing said:
I have ran both, towed with both.
For what it is, the tripple is a nice clutch, but shes a little slow on the shifts and you i could feel the power loss when the tripplw went in.
Hope this helps.

Either way both are a great choice. You can definitely club thw tripple and it loves every minute of it.

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The slowing down the shifts I may not like... this is one of the tougher shifting g56's I've been in and I'm the one who owns it lol
You say you could feel the power loss? If so, that scares me as well because I don't see this truck being a huge powerhouse. I want it to be, but reality and dreams are two different things.

99GreenCummins said:
I currently have a SB 3850. Has ceramic and organic faces. Been in truck for 4 years, roughly 45k miles of sled pulling, trailer pulling and driving. I absolutely love it. The 3850 plate load is rough in traffic but not horrid.



I will be replacing it with a valair when it gives up life. Hoping they have something similar with organic and ceramic faces.



Maybe Dan will chime in here.
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Yea, I'm a dealer for Dans clutches, and it's the only brand I suggest. Good people to deal with, and a good product.

So you pull with yours? How many times a year do you pull?
 
Also, I'm very familiar with gear roll over and how g56's react noise wise.
If I go with the dual, I'm going with the quiet so at least the noise from the floaters can be tamed. However I've yet to install a quiet clutch so I'm wondering if the extra funds toward the quiet are worth spending.
How's the noise from the triple? Any worse?
 
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I pull maybe 2 times a year. Just a couple local brush pulls. Clutch only has 4 hooks on it right now.
 
See... I've never pulled and don't really intend to rag my truck out pulling every weekend, but you get either a pulling clutch or a driving clutch.
 
BRE said:
See... I've never pulled and don't really intend to rag my truck out pulling every weekend, but you get either a pulling clutch or a driving clutch.
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I slipped the **** out of mine this past year and holding so far. I wouldn't hesitate to hook it up right now and trust it to hold. When I had to pull the transmission out in July, the clutch looked great and just a couple small heat spots.

As you know and have heard, it all depends how you launch. Get the truck moving and off the clutch quick and it will last a while.
 
Yea. I'm just picky and want a clutch that does it all and we all know it doesn't work that way lmao. Gotta give a little somewhere.
 
I've never ran a dual disk....but everyone around here that has them from company X......when they let the clutch out in neutral they all sound like they are going to explode. I don't think I could handle that in a truck. $.02
 
4x4dually said:
I've never ran a dual disk....but everyone around here that has them from company X......when they let the clutch out in neutral they all sound like they are going to explode. I don't think I could handle that in a truck. $.02
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The g56 is gonna be noisy regardless. However, if I go with the dual vs triple I'll likely buy the quiet to at least silence the floater plate rattle.
 
BRE said:
The g56 is gonna be noisy regardless. However, if I go with the dual vs triple I'll likely buy the quiet to at least silence the floater plate rattle.
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Good friend has a double from down south in his '08. I don't know how he stands the noise.
 
You said you're a dealer, why not call Dan and get his opinion ?
Personally, I'd never recommend a triple for daily drivers.
 
Snedge said:
You said you're a dealer, why not call Dan and get his opinion ?
Personally, I'd never recommend a triple for daily drivers.
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Well I'm not ordering just this minute so at this exact time it's just talk and conversation so I'd rather not bother working people with just talk. Know what I mean?
 
Snedge said:
You said you're a dealer, why not call Dan and get his opinion ?
Personally, I'd never recommend a triple for daily drivers.
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What about the triple makes you say you would not recommend it for a daily driver? I was about set on buying one but I'm open to being talked out of it.

BRE, I have the quiet dual disc valair right now and it is silent when you push the clutch in. Idling in neutral the gear rollover is down right embarrassing though haha.
 
jwbeggs said:
What about the triple makes you say you would not recommend it for a daily driver? I was about set on buying one but I'm open to being talked out of it.



BRE, I have the quiet dual disc valair right now and it is silent when you push the clutch in. Idling in neutral the gear rollover is down right embarrassing though haha.
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I'm also curious as well on the no triple thing.
 
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