billet input shaft test.

Runninlean said:
LOL well I had no knowledge of this thread until today as you can clearly note by me not posting in it till today. I have browsed this site for some time before creating an account on this forum. (this type of posts is the reason why). Might want to check my activity a little closer and my post count before insinuating I am some sort of troll.

I my self have not broken any of Opie's shafts I have however seen the fore mentioned shaft's and the denial of them being damaged or broken in another forum. I do believe he builds quality shafts how ever I am simply pointing out that every shaft can be broken. The fact that he bad mouths his competition and acts like his product is "superior" then trashes people who claim they damaged one of his products is what bothers me. As every one here seems to be fully aware of we are doing thing with these shafts that they were not even remotely designed for. Hope that clears things up a little.



Not sure if this is directed at me but I agree with you on that. I was simply pointing out that your previous statement is not always applicable. Hell I just stripped the bolts out of my converter. I didn't claim it was anyone's fault other than mine for racing a 7500 lbs 800hp tank down a 1/4 mile in less than 12 seconds. (That sounds even crazier when you see it in text)


As I stated before I have nothing against Opie's products.
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Where is this thread that you are implying I lied in?
 
Runninlean said:
LOL well I had no knowledge of this thread until today as you can clearly note by me not posting in it till today. I have browsed this site for some time before creating an account on this forum. (this type of posts is the reason why). Might want to check my activity a little closer and my post count before insinuating I am some sort of troll.

I my self have not broken any of Opie's shafts I have however seen the fore mentioned shaft's and the denial of them being damaged or broken in another forum. I do believe he builds quality shafts how ever I am simply pointing out that every shaft can be broken. The fact that he bad mouths his competition and acts like his product is "superior" then trashes people who claim they damaged one of his products is what bothers me. As every one here seems to be fully aware of we are doing thing with these shafts that they were not even remotely designed for. Hope that clears things up a little.



Not sure if this is directed at me but I agree with you on that. I was simply pointing out that your previous statement is not always applicable. Hell I just stripped the bolts out of my converter. I didn't claim it was anyone's fault other than mine for racing a 7500 lbs 800hp tank down a 1/4 mile in less than 12 seconds. (That sounds even crazier when you see it in text)


As I stated before I have nothing against Opie's products.
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Runninlean said:
I may cry about it but I wont ***** about it unless it is an obvious defect.
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Its a competitive sport. There's nothing wrong with saying you have the best product to offer. I see no trash talking here--that got blown out of proportion

I see nothing defective about his shafts either
 
SLIPPY said:
Its a competitive sport. There's nothing wrong with saying you have the best product to offer. I see no trash talking here--that got blown out of proportion

I see nothing defective about his shafts either
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I'm not claiming his shafts are or were defective in any way.

I am saying that if you offer a warranty (as he did) then you should stand behind it. I am also not saying he should or needs to offer a warranty on his shafts. I would understand completely if he started saying no warranty on shafts. Enough high HP trucks are running his stuff to know it works.
 
Opie said:
So this is after you buy a the replacement part you get this warrantee?

How long is it good for?


Thanks.
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Well I just called the dealer and you'll probably be shocked, a new Mopar input shaft for a 48re transmission comes with a 12mo./12,000 mile warranty.
 
LReiff said:
Well I just called the dealer and you'll probably be shocked, a new Mopar input shaft for a 48re transmission comes with a 12mo./12,000 mile warranty.
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Please tell me you aren't drag racing running stock shafts and then expecting warranty when they break.
 
RonA said:
Please tell me you aren't drag racing running stock shafts and then expecting warranty when they break.
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To clear this up a bit...my first shaft warranty post was in agreement that racing parts and warranty do not go together. I do not run stock shafts and I have broken billet shafts, then I found better billet shafts.
 
Opie said:
Just got through reading the rest of this thread, Lee I did not know this, how does one get the stock shaft input warranty?

I used to have a two-year warrantee but do to folks mix matching with different parts, having numerous rebuilds do to other problems, buying used parts expecting warrantee, and of course guys like BigDodge (9.34 / 148 plus mph in the quarter) doing converter lock launches it has made it impractical. For trucks over 750 hp I push the fat shaft series as they always seem to increase hp year to year. Otherwise I gue$$ that’s racing.

So last Jan warrantee basically went from two years to 90 days for the builders that use my parts. With the exception of all out competition trucks and those who choose not to be honest with me. That being said I do not know of any other supplier that has a warrantee.
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My shaft was installed by Jeff Garmon on wedesday in the tranny that he built from my core. By sunday it looked like the pics show. Last time i looked thats 4 days. And if you could read i have stated 15 times that none of my trannys will lock in 1st gear. They all have to shift to 2nd first before they can loc-up. So your statement of "doing converter lock launches" is a LIE!

The only thing i can see you are saying is that Jeff Garmon did not build my tranny right and thats why it did what it did.

After this whole opie shaft thing i went back to a fresh HTS 47RH with TCS shafts,durms and other billet parts. It has made over 60 passes this past year and still was working great when it will pulled out when i sold the truck.

Side note. TCS shaft is still perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not one time did ever ask for a FREE shaft from you. I email you about what i need to do about getting it fixed. Thats when you started with your "I am not going to do anything about your shaft" replys.

At the time i got this shaft from Jeff your website said "2 year warrantee". No where did it say any thing about full competition trucks or anything like that.


This post was put up to show what happen to 3 shafts i have used. I can't help it if your shaft was the one that failed and you can't handle that.
 
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I don't have a dog in this fight but I do have my own business and how you(Opie) comes across is very poor! IF!!!! you offer a warranty you must stand behind it! It's that simple. If your product can no longer do it's job you ether redo the item or end the warranty on said product from that time forward. I don't know Opie but I would guess it is not his man gig by what I see in his replies. You just can't do that in todays market and expect to last. What a few shafts would have cost you now would take who know's how much in marketing to make up. That's why I said it's not your main gig. You just don't care about the customer. You must make your living from something else to be that poor with customer service. Jeff
 
Stingpuller said:
I don't have a dog in this fight but I do have my own business and how you(Opie) comes across is very poor! IF!!!! you offer a warranty you must stand behind it! It's that simple. If your product can no longer do it's job you ether redo the item or end the warranty on said product from that time forward. I don't know Opie but I would guess it is not his man gig by what I see in his replies. You just can't do that in todays market and expect to last. What a few shafts would have cost you now would take who know's how much in marketing to make up. That's why I said it's not your main gig. You just don't care about the customer. You must make your living from something else to be that poor with customer service. Jeff
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Agreed! I have my own business as well and I tell people we make mistakes, but the difference between me and some others is that I will fix mine no matter what cost to me. My dad told me when I first started my business was; (the only thing you have that someone else can not take away from you is you word, so don't give it away).
 
One thing is for sure. There a LOT of warranties implied and never stood behind in the diesel world. Yet the companies that do it wonder why our sport doesn't grow.
 
TMONEYDIESEL said:
This sport is to damn expensive :hehe:
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And too damn hard on parts! But then again no sain person would drag race a 5000-9000lb vehicle ha (we're all doomed).

I agree with what some have said though word of mouth is huge and nothing gets it out like the internet so more careful proceedings on this site and others may be beneficial to overall business; ofcourse that's if you care or not as some do not.
 
Blacksdieselhp said:
One thing is for sure. There a LOT of warranties implied and never stood behind in the diesel world. Yet the companies that do it wonder why our sport doesn't grow.
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Also agreed... and I try to be reasonable and fair too...

But on my engine rebuild, I specifically requested a new oil pump (and water pump too that didn't get put on and failed) and paid for it too. Then engine failed (rod bearing failure) due to oil starvation from intermittently working oil pump. Upon disassembly, I find out the old oil pump was used (and my money pocketed) and the builder does not stand behind the work because I have a "high performance engine" even though the only "high performance" it saw was a few dyno pulls and a few 1/4 mile passes 6 months before, then I get "unreasonable".

It is no wonder that "engine builder" went out of business.
 
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Just for the record I bought my NEW truck in 06 with the intent of racing/pulling knowing full well that it would never be back at the dealer for anything warranty related. I agree with most that when you race it's pretty much your baby. That's why I said "IF" you offer a warranty. Just for the record also my dealing's with shops have been good. Braydan and Chase and the rest of the crew from Fleece have went above and beyond what most would do. Thanks Guy's. Jeff
 
Blacksdieselhp said:
One thing is for sure. There a LOT of warranties implied and never stood behind in the diesel world. Yet the companies that do it wonder why our sport doesn't grow.
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Then you got retards that buy a 8000lbs truck, dump 40k into it and go race it. break stuff and accually expect a warranty........:nail:

No where else in the racing world will you find a warranty on the stuff most wine about
 
DIESEL_POWER said:
Then you got retards that buy a 8000lbs truck, dump 40k into it and go race it. break stuff and accually expect a warranty........:nail:

No where else in the racing world will you find a warranty on the stuff most wine about
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For the record my truck was 4600lbs. opie's website had nothing about if your truck is over 4599lbs there is no warranty.


my piont was that i twisted ther crap out of an opie shaft in 1 day and my tcs has lived for a year.

i would not take a free opie shaft if you gave it to me. everybody posts pics of what they break. in this case opie was looking bad as a machinist and a shaft maker so he started in with say i had a bad rebuild, it was the tranny rebuilder that did and so on and so on.


and yes there is warranty on racing parts. i broke a moser slip yoke, call them to see if they made a better one. as soon as i told them they said "we are sending a call tag with a new to you today".
 
BigDodge said:
For the record my truck was 4600lbs. opie's website had nothing about if your truck is over 4599lbs there is no warranty.


my piont was that i twisted ther crap out of an opie shaft in 1 day and my tcs has lived for a year.

i would not take a free opie shaft if you gave it to me. everybody posts pics of what they break. in this case opie was looking bad as a machinist and a shaft maker so he started in with say i had a bad rebuild, it was the tranny rebuilder that did and so on and so on.


and yes there is warranty on racing parts. i broke a moser slip yoke, call them to see if they made a better one. as soon as i told them they said "we are sending a call tag with a new to you today".
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I wasent refering to you, but finding a racing warranty these day's is like finding gold in your yard.
 
..whether it's stated to have a warrenty. 'limited' warrenty may apply. A company could offer warrenty's, but put that part on a truck that makes 1000+hp and anything can happen
 
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