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98mm g57. Gasoline application. Rated for 2550 hp. $6000 USD with housing. Vband housings only no T6.
 
allan5oh said:
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98mm g57. Gasoline application. Rated for 2550 hp. $6000 USD with housing. Vband housings only no T6.
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You need a new dealer.

There is no such thing as gas application, it doesn’t have specialty parts tailored to gas engines, they just don’t have T6 housings for it yet.
 
SmokinCAT said:
You need a new dealer.

There is no such thing as gas application, it doesn’t have specialty parts tailored to gas engines, they just don’t have T6 housings for it yet.
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Oh? I have another customer that is looking at the same turbo and already has a better price, but if you want to send me a price go ahead.

I didn't mean it was gas only, I meant it was bought for a gasoline application. It is tailored towards the gasoline market. Or do ceramic ball bearings last in a diesel app?

That's a good point though these turbos this big are atmosphere turbos anyways, no t6 needed.
 
SmokinCAT said:
There is no such thing as gas application, it doesn’t have specialty parts tailored to gas engines, they just don’t have T6 housings for it yet.
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Garrett's focus certainly wasn't how well it worked bolted to a 6NZ, many turbochargers produced have an intended application in mind during the design process. It's clear to see in the published data, the G42 has a higher rated shaft speed 118k RPM vs 109K RPM for the GTX4202, yet the wheel speed would be 20m/s slower. If a 3% increase in efficiency and 5lb/min mass air flow on the turbine comes at the cost of creating pressure ratio capability where it's needed, then it may not be for you.
 
Smokem said:
Garrett's focus certainly wasn't how well it worked bolted to a 6NZ, many turbochargers produced have an intended application in mind during the design process. It's clear to see in the published data, the G42 has a higher rated shaft speed 118k RPM vs 109K RPM for the GTX4202, yet the wheel speed would be 20m/s slower. If a 3% increase in efficiency and 5lb/min mass air flow on the turbine comes at the cost of creating pressure ratio capability where it's needed, then it may not be for you.
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It was never my intention to bolt it to a “6nz”, my use would be as a low pressure charger and current housing offerings aren’t ideal in size.

Why did they just not push the GT60 into a ball bearing version? Too heavy?
 
SmokinCAT said:
It was never my intention to bolt it to a “6nz”, my use would be as a low pressure charger and current housing offerings aren’t ideal in size.

Why did they just not push the GT60 into a ball bearing version? Too heavy?
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I don’t understand the logic of limiting your market. If a hillbilly with a lathe can open an E trim turbine housing to fit a G wheel why can’t Garrett offer every single exhaust housing size they have ever made for the new turbos within reason.

To only offer Vband housings seems like a good way to shoot yourself in the face with 1/2 your potential customers. If I make turbos and someone wants to pay me $6k for one and use it as a boat anchor why do I GAF?
 
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Smokem said:
Garrett's focus certainly wasn't how well it worked bolted to a 6NZ, many turbochargers produced have an intended application in mind during the design process. It's clear to see in the published data, the G42 has a higher rated shaft speed 118k RPM vs 109K RPM for the GTX4202, yet the wheel speed would be 20m/s slower. If a 3% increase in efficiency and 5lb/min mass air flow on the turbine comes at the cost of creating pressure ratio capability where it's needed, then it may not be for you.
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Seems like their intention was to limit their market because they don’t like making money. If I call you and want injector tips are you going to not sell them to me because I want to use them as Christmas tree ornaments?
 
SmokinCAT said:
Why did they just not push the GT60 into a ball bearing version? Too heavy?
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Because it was an existing piece, and stub shaft. The market has gotten quite demanding and consumers tend to cling to things that are "new" or pushed as "performance" items, even if they don't fit the application.

jfaulkner said:
If I call you and want injector tips are you going to not sell them to me because I want to use them as Christmas tree ornaments?
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I will gladly sell them to you, even at a quantity discount.
 
Smokem said:
I will gladly sell them to you, even at a quantity discount.
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That’s my point with Garrett. They have T6 housings that would probably work with 15 min worth of machining time that would broaden the range of potential uses even if not ideal for the design. I guess that’s just the evil capitalist in me, I’ll sell you a hatchet to chop your own hand off. Guess we’ll just wait for knockoffs on alibaba.
 
jfaulkner said:
That’s my point with Garrett. They have T6 housings that would probably work with 15 min worth of machining time that would broaden the range of potential uses even if not ideal for the design. I guess that’s just the evil capitalist in me, I’ll sell you a hatchet to chop your own hand off. Guess we’ll just wait for knockoffs on alibaba.
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I understood the point you were making, but manufacturers tend to promote the "performance" items toward what they perceive as the ideal market. No need to look on Alibaba, plenty of places stateside are selling knock-offs.
 
Smokem said:
Because it was an existing piece, and stub shaft. The market has gotten quite demanding and consumers tend to cling to things that are "new" or pushed as "performance" items, even if they don't fit the application.



I will gladly sell them to you, even at a quantity discount.
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Are shops modifying that stub shaft design for use in the prostock turbos?
 
SmokinCAT said:
Are shops modifying that stub shaft design for use in the prostock turbos?
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The old CDS Pro Stock turbos used a GT62 turbine head that they friction welded a Holset style shaft to for use with the HX82 frame. In later years almost everything is produced offshore as a modified version of some existing design.
 
Ran across this today.
BC400 with Pittsburgh stuff on it
KW sleeper
Peterbuilt tanks
Freightliner rear
 

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Smokem said:
The old CDS Pro Stock turbos used a GT62 turbine head that they friction welded a Holset style shaft to for use with the HX82 frame. In later years almost everything is produced offshore as a modified version of some existing design.
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Is the HT100 just not viable as a single or is the turbine too large for where they are at?
 
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