Super Stock Diesel 2012

^agree I think if u meet all the rules and r able to run 10's like matt, aron, haisly, and scheid congrats to them. Great tuning on there part. Should not be penalized for a 10 second truck that meets every rule.

bobby
 
TMONEYDIESEL said:
With big $$$$$ on the line weight WILL be stripped no matter what vehicle or engine. Again this is not a "average joe" race. This is a class to BUILD a truck for, pick the correct baseline truck and go from there.

I think a 2.6 S400 frame style charger should be the turbo style to run, strong, fairly priced and it will give people better options for their setup.
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It is what it is I suppose.

syrupdawg said:
Ill say it again if we want the class to grow the rules need to stay the same. Yall keep talking about the turbos and changing the rules for them, well what about the guys that have already invested in a turbo for this class? Do you really want the guys that are ALREADY running the class to have to go change their setup and buy another charger? Or do you want to change the rules for the people that MIGHT come into the class if they are changed? Im not really in favor of an aftermarket transmission but I will race the class regardless. As far a weight my truck is a regular cab 4x4 and without adding weight it was 5560 lbs and the only thing that was stripped was the carpet and that was to install the cage. I vote to leave the weight the same.
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syrupdawg said:
Why do y'all say a 10 sec truck does not belong in this class? I met every rule with a street truck that I drive on the street all the time. Aron drives his truck all the time too and he run a few 10s
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You keep forgetting that new trucks are not that light. No disrespect to Aron, but it's not remotely close to a 10 second truck if you need bolt on a bumper to keep the State Patrol from pulling you over...

My impression of a "street vehicle" is if you can drive it there, and run it down the track with out pulling out the tools. Taking a passenger along for the ride is a bonus.

That my main point about such a low weight of 6000#. Sure the 20 year old trucks are light, but the current models are far from light..

It comes down to spending money on some dedicated i suppose. :( Maybe in 2013 or 2014 a 7000# class in addition to the 6000# class could be considered... my my $0.000001's
 
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triton said:
10 sec trucks are definitely becoming more common but, this class isn't a lot different than PS which typically are in the 10's. What's making this class stand out from PS to where more are going to want to build for it ? Luck helps a lot to win a race but, the team with the largest pocket has the advantage every time. If you indexed SS say at 11, I would think it would be more competitive. Then you have
PS @ 10's
SS @ 11's
QD @ 12's
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idk if the deepest pockets one look at suncoasts truck. it never made a realy good pass and had hell all weekend
 
syrupdawg said:
Why do y'all say a 10 sec truck does not belong in this class? I met every rule with a street truck that I drive on the street all the time. Aron drives his truck all the time too and he run a few 10s
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I'm saying with changing the turbo rule a little bit and making the class 6500 lbs you won't be running 10's most likely. Not saying your truck doesn't belong at all.
 
mixerfixer said:
^agree I think if u meet all the rules and r able to run 10's like matt, aron, haisly, and scheid congrats to them. Great tuning on there part. Should not be penalized for a 10 second truck that meets every rule.

bobby
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Read my previous post dude. You guys are getting yourselves all fired up. Nobody said anyone wasn't legal blah blah blah. Chill out.
 
GRotman said:
Limiting to a true 66mm will not make the class more affordable. Due to the competitive nature of motorsports, people will begin using billet 66mm charges and then it will come down to who has the best wheel design. This r&d is not cheap, nor will those chargers be. The more limits you put on the class the more money it costs to be at the top.


My 2 cents....
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What the hell do you know about this stuff anyway, Glenn? LOL
 
Personally I wouldn't change a thing about the Rules. Leave them be. It's a good Class.
 
Stingpuller said:
Leave the rules like they are. The turbo rules seemed to work and nobody broke a turbo. The weight worked as there was trucks with a lot of weight added. THIS OR ANY CLASS you are not going to take your daily driver and be at the front of the pack! You have to build for a class. Brackets is were a ANY truck can win with a good driver. Leave the rules alone and I really think this class will grow. You already have some very good trucks in this class and i'm sure more will follow. Jeff
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I say leave rules alone. Only way to attract more racers is keep rules same and not changing every year like pulling.
 
How many competitors complained about the rules ?

My vote would be to let things ride as they are. One of the nice things about racing, is that having a truck built for this class will not keep a guy from racing his truck in other venues.
Building a fast truck is one thing, build the fastest truck within a set of rules is a breeding ground for innovation.
 
If the rules go unchanged people can build and campaign a truck, then the sport grows as the vendors create better products to serve the growing number racers building trucks to fit the rules that remain in place...it's a vicious cycle.
 
I think the rules should stay set for at least 5 more races, then do some tweaking and everyone that has built a 2.6 can modify a little, to meet the rules.

That being an internet spectators opinion...lol
 
JasonCzerak said:
My impression of a "street vehicle" is if you can drive it there, and run it down the track with out pulling out the tools. Taking a passenger along for the ride is a bonus.
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You sure have a hell of alot of opinions for someone who doesn't even race:what:

I don't understand this obsession the diesel community has with trying to create a HEADS UP class for the average daily driven truck? It is just not going to happen!! The spectrum of trucks is just too varied and besides, there are already 2 classes of racing for those types of vehicles...ET and QD.

Guess what people...

RACING COSTS MONEY!!!!!

If you don't want to "pull out the tools" at the track, then race ET or stay home and play an internet racer:stab:




I like the rules as they are. Although I am torn between leaving my truck in ProStreet or building the parts for a "quick change" to Super Stock
 
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Big Swole said:
Not So Sam!

The rule about the tranny will not change for the Feb. 2012 Jeff/Gary race....

Not sure why others have changed it for their race but it will not be in this one...

More than likely, the weight will be up'd to 6500 and everything else stays the same...
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IMHO, Danco's are for Pro Street trucks, period.

...& 6500 lbs would eliminate many of the 2x4 trucks. (likely all the 12v's)
I would not be excited about adding 1000lbs to my truck.

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Weight break the chargers then...66's get less weight or 2.6 gets more weight...either way...
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I like this idea. Perhaps if there is to be any change at all, A true 66mm truck could stay 6000lbs & the modded 2.6 class trucks go to 6500?
 
Dockboy said:
You sure have a hell of alot of opinions for someone who doesn't even race:what:

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How many trucks showed to race the big money race? We'll never know how many didn't even bother due to not having a chance due to weight. Ty's right, this is prostreet-level-speed.

I've stated before why I can't drive all over the country, even to donate $500 to the prize.

There's some serious work going on to build a local track here (with in 30 minutes!!!). I'll be racing regularly once again.
 
Dockboy said:
You sure have a hell of alot of opinions for someone who doesn't even race:what:

I don't understand this obsession the diesel community has with trying to create a HEADS UP class for the average daily driven truck? It is just not going to happen!! The spectrum of trucks is just too varied and besides, there are already 2 classes of racing for those types of vehicles...ET and QD.

Guess what people...

RACING COSTS MONEY!!!!!

If you don't want to "pull out the tools" at the track, then race ET or stay home and play an internet racer:stab:




I like the rules as they are. Although I am torn between leaving my truck in ProStreet or building the parts for a "quick change" to Super Stock
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:clap::clap:x2. Don't forget how many times you try something and fail, then have to start over again:Cheer:
 
Acorn 616 said:
:clap::clap:x2. Don't forget how many times you try something and fail, then have to start over again:Cheer:
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That's not the point I'm try to make from an out side observer that would love to play but the numbers and money just doesn't add up to be worth it. Even if the race was right, fuking next, freaking with in 20 miles and I could push my broken truc home.

7000#, yeah, that might be difficult for a truck already at 5500#. 6500 is right in the middle. Newer trucks have to come down 1000, older trucks have to come up 1000.

That to me is worth it to take off the hair horns and stereo and the extra battery and what ever else can be trimmed down. I know there are a few more like my self that would give this idea a second thought and even travel a some what decent distance.

I can care less what the turbo rule is, that's easy to change to whatever the rules are.
 
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