Aug. 29 A.V. Fair/BPD Sled Pull, So Calif.

cjohnson

You Bet!
The date is official, Aug. 29, Antelope Valley Fairgrounds.

NADM Classes/Rules

Classes/Purse

Payout
Work Stock $300,$200,$100
2.6 Diesel $500,$300,$200
Super Street $800,$600,$300,$100
Modified $800 - Winner takes all


There isn't much info up on the net yet, but before long there will be rules, registration and general information available on BIG POWER DIESEL 661.212.8292 and at Antelope Valley Fairgrounds. For now, rules can be found on the NADM website.

Any other questions, e mail craig@bigpowerdiesel.com. I will continue to update and post the flyer asap. Should be a good pull that will grow this year and have a great purse.

Craig
 
Craig are you going to be strict to the letter of the law on the rules? no exceptions?

can the same truck be entered in more than one class?

what about the same driver with different trucks?

I'll hold you to your answer :D



Thanks!! Can't wait for it!
 
Craig are you going to be strict to the letter of the law on the rules? no exceptions?

can the same truck be entered in more than one class?

what about the same driver with different trucks?

I'll hold you to your answer :D



Thanks!! Can't wait for it!

god you're a PITA !!! i feel sorry for craig having to deal with people like you! i hope you have work stock truck to get dominated.

see you there craig.
 
god you're a PITA !!! i feel sorry for craig having to deal with people like you! i hope you have work stock truck to get dominated.

see you there craig.

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Translation:

Hey Craig, do I absolutely have to have all of the safety equipment called for in the rules? But what if I don't wanna????


Nuthin but love Nick.........

-Tom
 
Nick,
The modified class will have no exceptions as far as rules go. The others, especially you Super Street guys, need to make a serious effort on the safety equipment, thats what I will say about that. The lower classes don't require much but will be encouraged to comply as closely as possible. The Super Street class is sort of the flagship class of this pull and I expect a lot from the participants there - sort of like to see you guys set an example for the other classes.
Same driver in different trucks won't be a problem, it will just be up to you to make sure you can work between the two. I'm not sure about the same truck hooking in multiple classes yet. I will get back to you on that. Does that answer your question?

Craig

Craig are you going to be strict to the letter of the law on the rules? no exceptions?

can the same truck be entered in more than one class?

what about the same driver with different trucks?

I'll hold you to your answer :D



Thanks!! Can't wait for it!
 
Actually Tom you couldn't be more wrong but nice guess.

I've got all the safety equipment but i know last year the rules weren't 100% strict and that affected others, NOT me. You should remember too Tom since you were a little "chapped" about it :kick:

So i don't think its an unfair question to ask. Do you honestly remember the last CA event any of us went to where they were 100% strict on the rules? Like it or not the reality is many of our events seem to consider them "guidelines" more than rules. So once again, not an unfair question.

and of course I've got nothing bad to say about Craig. He's 100% a man of his word and this was an honest question for him. He's done a great job and every event he's ever put on...Especially the first ever went to which got me hooked!

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Translation:

Hey Craig, do I absolutely have to have all of the safety equipment called for in the rules? But what if I don't wanna????


Nuthin but love Nick.........

-Tom
 
Dude you gotta stop drinking so much.

I think you need to point that PITA finger back at yourself buddy... who's the one drinking in the pits before his pull?

Ha

god you're a PITA !!! i feel sorry for craig having to deal with people like you! i hope you have work stock truck to get dominated.

see you there craig.
 
Why no 2.8 class Craig? Just curious cuz if there is gonna be hooking in multiple classes, I fit the 2.8 since I am still running a 2.8. Keep us updated, I would definately like to run the 2.8 and SS.

Printed out the NADM SS rules, so I will work real hard to get all my safety stuff lined up and in compliance. I guess the most expensive item would be the NV4500 blanket, gotta come up with $400 just for that alone. :kick::bang Why can't kevlar be cheaper?:bang

Joe
 
Craig,

I wasn't talking about safety equipment, but you have answered my question with regard to that.

I was talking more about rules that would technically kick someone up into a higher class. I know you were flexible with that last year and while it didn't affect me it did affect others and what class they ended up in.

Thanks

Nick,
The modified class will have no exceptions as far as rules go. The others, especially you Super Street guys, need to make a serious effort on the safety equipment, thats what I will say about that. The lower classes don't require much but will be encouraged to comply as closely as possible. The Super Street class is sort of the flagship class of this pull and I expect a lot from the participants there - sort of like to see you guys set an example for the other classes.
Same driver in different trucks won't be a problem, it will just be up to you to make sure you can work between the two. I'm not sure about the same truck hooking in multiple classes yet. I will get back to you on that. Does that answer your question?

Craig
 
Joe,

The 2.8 class is fine, it just limits the entries too much. The super street class opens things up to street twin guys to compete with the hotter purpose built pull trucks. Its all about trying to accomodate what the trucks out west but still have some legitimate rules, and the 2.8 excludes a number of trucks.

I know safety stuff is expensive, but not compared to everything else on the truck. Show me an honest effort and knowbody will have a problem.

Craig

Why no 2.8 class Craig? Just curious cuz if there is gonna be hooking in multiple classes, I fit the 2.8 since I am still running a 2.8. Keep us updated, I would definately like to run the 2.8 and SS.

Printed out the NADM SS rules, so I will work real hard to get all my safety stuff lined up and in compliance. I guess the most expensive item would be the NV4500 blanket, gotta come up with $400 just for that alone. :kick::bang Why can't kevlar be cheaper?:bang

Joe
 
Nick,

Class rules will be quite firm. Last year we opened things up a bit to see who we could get in the ss class and it worked as a few twin trucks got in there. Now that we got that figured out, we will stick with the rules. I will let a twin truck run in SS if the atmospheric charger is too big, but their position will not be counted and they won't be eligible for a trophy or money. Last year one problem was we had such short notice on the pull, I tried to be a little more accomodating. This year we have plenty of notice. Running the established NADM rules takes any questions out of the equation hopefully.

I have always done my best to create and enforce resonable classes and rules, and I will do the same this year.

Craig

Craig,

I wasn't talking about safety equipment, but you have answered my question with regard to that.

I was talking more about rules that would technically kick someone up into a higher class. I know you were flexible with that last year and while it didn't affect me it did affect others and what class they ended up in.

Thanks
 
Craig,

That's what I was hoping you'd say. You put on a great show last year and I'm sure this one will be even better.


Nick,

Class rules will be quite firm. Last year we opened things up a bit to see who we could get in the ss class and it worked as a few twin trucks got in there. Now that we got that figured out, we will stick with the rules. I will let a twin truck run in SS if the atmospheric charger is too big, but their position will not be counted and they won't be eligible for a trophy or money. Last year one problem was we had such short notice on the pull, I tried to be a little more accomodating. This year we have plenty of notice. Running the established NADM rules takes any questions out of the equation hopefully.

I have always done my best to create and enforce resonable classes and rules, and I will do the same this year.

Craig
 
Joe,

The 2.8 class is fine, it just limits the entries too much. The super street class opens things up to street twin guys to compete with the hotter purpose built pull trucks. Its all about trying to accomodate what the trucks out west but still have some legitimate rules, and the 2.8 excludes a number of trucks.

I know safety stuff is expensive, but not compared to everything else on the truck. Show me an honest effort and knowbody will have a problem.

Craig

Thanks Craig, SS it is then, looking forward to it. :rockwoot: I will do all I can to get the last of my safety stuff nailed down but right now it's looking like the trans blanket is going to be the only tough one for me. Maybe I can work something out to get the price down.

Well, its a ways away but it'll be here before we know it, gonna spread the word & help make this event an even better one.

Hey Craig, BTW, are you gonna have your booth set-up again like last year? Or maybe it was the year before, I can't remember...... If so, I just wanted to let you know my truck will be available for spectator display like you had Nick's, Tom's and Scott's trucks set-up last year. I'll be happy to help out in that dept. :)

Joe
 
Per NADM Rules, no bushings in the 2.6 Class. Run that HTT66 and you're in there. -

Turbocharger: The vehicle is limited to a single turbocharger; the inducer bore on the
compressor housing may be 2.6”. The inlet will be measured using a 2.65-inch plug or internal
calipers. Bushing from any larger turbo size down to a 2.6 turbo is PROHIBITED. A stock
map width enhancement (MWE) groove is allowed. No MWE groove will be allowed that has a
width greater than 1/4 inch. All provisions allowing air to the wheel other than via the bore and
the MWE groove are prohibited. 6.4 liter Powerstroke engines may utilize the factory twin-turbo

Are bushings allowed in 2.6?
 
Just for reference here's the rules for NADM SS.

Super Street

The Super Street (SS) class is designed for full-bodied pulling trucks. The vehicle may be two or four-wheel drive.

Designations: SS

Weight: 8000 lbs. Maximum with driver.

REGULATIONS:

Ballast: Ballast is permitted. Hanging weights may not extend more than 60 inches from the centerline of the front axle.

Batteries: Batteries must be securely mounted. They may not
be located in the driver compartment.

Body: The body may be any 3/4-or 1-ton full-sized pickup truck body. The body must retain full sheet metal. The full bed floor must remain intact. Alternatively, two one-hundred pound weights may be placed directly over the centerline of the rear
axle in lieu of the bed floor. The complete OEM firewall and complete OEM floor pan is mandatory. Metal after-market hoods are permitted. Fiberglass is prohibited. Tilt-bodies are prohibited. The hood must be closed and securely latched while the vehicle is hooked to the sled.

Brakes: Front disk brakes are mandatory.

Chassis: The OEM chassis is mandatory. The engine must be in the OEM location for the body used. The vehicle must retain the full OEM chassis. Wheel tubs, back-half conversions, tube chassis, etc., are prohibited.

Credentials: All drivers must have a valid state drivers license.

Driveline: Open.


Driver Restraint System: The OEM restraint system is mandatory and must be worn snugly. Alternatively, a three inch-wide driver restraint system labeled as meeting SFI Spec 16.1 is permitted; this system includes a crotch strap and must be updated at two-year intervals from date of manufacture.

Driveshaft Loops: All trucks must have at least six-inch wide u-joint shields around the rear u-joint constructed of at least 1/4-inch steel or 3/8-inch aluminum that will safely contain the u-joint and the ends of each shaft. In addition there will be at least one shaft loop in the middle of the drive shaft. All shields must be securely mounted to the vehicle. Any front shaft u-joint that is visible from the side of the truck must be shielded to contain the u-joint and the end of the shaft. On vehicles so equipped, all intermediate drive shafts must be fully enclosed with a 5/16 inch steel or 3/8 inch aluminum shield. The shield must cover the entire length of the shaft and the universal joints and yokes at each end.

Engine: The engine block must have been available as a factory option on one-ton or smaller pickup trucks. NITROUS OXIDE and other oxygen extenders as well as the use of PROPANE is also prohibited. All system components MUST be removed from the truck.

Exhaust: All vehicles must be equipped to direct exhaust upward. Two 3/8 inch diameter bolts must be installed in the exhaust pipe in a cross pattern within one inch of each other as close to the final turbo as is practical.

Fire Extinguisher System: A fire extinguisher system is permitted. It must be securely mounted.

Fuel: The fuel must be pump #1/#2 diesel only. Soy/Biodiesel fuel is permitted.

Fuel Injection Pump: Open.

Fuel Shutoff: All trucks must be equipped with a driver operated fuel shutoff capable of blocking fuel flow to the injection pump. A three-way dump valve is recommended.

Fuel System: Location: All fuel tanks, lines, pumps, valves, etc. must be located outside of the driver compartment and within the confines of the frame and/or steel body. Fuel pressure gauge isolators, with steel-braided line, may be mounted on
the firewall.

Helmet: Drivers must wear a helmet meeting Snell 90, 95, 2000, K98 or SFI Spec 31.1 or 41.1 standards. The retention strap must be securely and snugly fastened The helmet must have the appropriate certification sticker affixed inside it.

Harmonic Balancer: All engines must be equipped with a harmonic balancer or damper meeting SFI Spec 18.1. Alternately, If a harmonic balancer is not used and a tone ring is in place, a shield across the frame under the front of the motor shielding the damper and engine fan area is required.

Hitch: The hitch must be constructed of solid material that is properly attached and braced. The hooking point must be at least 44 inches rearward from the centerline of the rear axle. The hitch must be horizontal to the ground and stationary in all directions. The hitch’s height from the ground may not exceed 26 inches on 4wd units and 30 inches on 2wd units. The hooking point must have a minimum 3.750-inch inside diameter opening for the sled hook. The hooking point will be measured to the center of the clevis loop. The final decision rests with the NADM Technical Department.

Interior: The vehicle must be equipped with one seat for the driver; it must be properly installed.

Master Cutoff: A sled-and driver-operated spring-loaded emergency air shut off is mandatory. The cable must terminate into a two-inch diameter steel ring.

Protective Clothing: Drivers must wear a jacket meeting SFI specification 3.2A/5 or 3.2A/15. Protective clothing exceeding this specification is permitted. The protective clothing must be labeled with the proper SFI specification. The NADM patch must be located in the upper-most position on the left sleeve of the fire suit or jacket.

Rear End: Rear axle bolts must be covered by a cap or shield.

Suspension, Front: The axle centerline must remain in the factory location. The final decision rests with the NADM Technical Department.

Suspension, Rear: Rigid or 4-link suspensions are permitted. Air suspension is permitted; the compressor must be disconnected.

Tires: Tires must be DOT street tires only. Cut tires are prohibited.

Tow Vehicles: Tow vehicles are permitted.

Transmission, Automatic: Aftermarket torque converters, valve bodies and internal components are permitted. Transmission brakes are prohibited. Any non-OEM floor-mounted automatic transmission shifter must be equipped with a spring-loaded
positive reverse lockout device to prevent the shifter from accidentally being put into reverse gear. A functional neutral safety switch is mandatory. All transmission lines must
be metallic or high-pressure-type hose. All vehicles with engines running 4500 RPM or more and using an automatic transmission must be equipped with a transmission shield meeting SFI Spec 4.1 and must be labeled accordingly. A blanket-type shield is permitted; it must be appropriately labeled as meeting SFI Spec 4.1 and it must extend from the rear of the block to the front of tailhousing with a minimum six inch overlap where it is fastened. All non-blanket type shields must incorporate two (or one, per manufacturers instructions) 3/4 inch by 1/8 inch straps that bolt to the shield on each side and pass under the transmission pan unless the transmission pan is labeled as meeting SFI Spec 4.1. All vehicles with engines running 4500 RPM or more and using an automatic transmission must be equipped with a flex plate meeting SFI Spec 29.1 and be covered by a flex plate shield meeting SFI Spec 30.1.

Transmission, Manual: A clutch meeting minimum SFI Spec 1.1 or 1.2 is mandatory on all vehicles. All transmissions must be clutch assisted. Sequential shifters are prohibited. All vehicles equipped with a manual transmission must have a flywheel shield labeled as meeting minimum SFI Spec 6.3 or greater. Applications for which an SFI Spec flywheel shield is not available may use a properly attached SFI 4.1 or 4.2 blanket that completely covers the bell housing; it must be attached to the block and extend rearward to the transmission with a minimum six inch overlap where it is fastened.

Turbocharger: Vehicles are limited to two turbochargers only. Single turbos are unlimited. For multiple turbos, the inducer bore on the atmosphere compressor housing(s) may be no larger than 3.2 inches measured at the smallest diameter area
of the compressor wheel. A bushing may be used to downsize the compressor housing ahead of the wheel. If a bushing is used, it must be round, at least 3/4 inch long, mounted within 0.050 inch of the compressor wheel, and the inside diameter
of the bushing may not exceed the 3.2 inch limit. If you have any questions regarding the construction of a bushing, contact NADM Technical Services before the season starts. A stock map width enhancement (MWE) groove is permitted. No MWE groove may be wider than 1/4 inch. All provisions allowing air to the wheel other than via the bore and MWE grooves are prohibited. The inducer bore will be measured using a 3.25 inch plug.

Water Injection: Water injection is permitted. Alcohol, methanol, and all other flammables are prohibited.

Commercially available lube pump is allowed.

Wheelbase: The vehicle must retain the original unaltered factory wheelbase and track width. Front dual-wheel spacers may be used only with accompanying positive-offset dually style wheels.

-Tom
 
Actually Tom you couldn't be more wrong but nice guess.

I've got all the safety equipment but i know last year the rules weren't 100% strict and that affected others, NOT me. You should remember too Tom since you were a little "chapped" about it :kick:

So i don't think its an unfair question to ask. Do you honestly remember the last CA event any of us went to where they were 100% strict on the rules? Like it or not the reality is many of our events seem to consider them "guidelines" more than rules. So once again, not an unfair question.

Jeeezuz Nick, calm down dude, I was just ribbin ya for christ sakes. I remember exactly what happened last year but the fact of the matter is that charger being a tiny bit smaller would not have changed anything. Just like most CA tracks, a lower HP truck with a lot of tire will prevail. We have all seen it a thousand times, not taking a shot at you.

-Tom
 
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