PSDPlayer
Captain Negativity!
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So does the 4R100 bolt up to the 6.0?
No.
So does the 4R100 bolt up to the 6.0?
Don't hate on me for telling you the troubles that I have had and several others also. I have spent 2 years trying to get this tranny right and can't. Maybe someone will get is figure out. Everyone was always willing to say I guarantee we can get it working and they couldn't. My advise is sell your auto tranny. But a manual for around $1700, A South Bend double disk with 3800 pound clutch will run you around $2200. Then you will have about anther $500 in findind a junk yard to get the shifter pedals and other odds and ends you need. Then have the dealer flash the truck pcm to a manual tranny pcm and then have ERIC tune it. If you start with switching it to a manual before you get your 5R built you will find that it will cost about the same money and you won't have all the 5R headaches. Do it right the first time, I wish I did. Talk to Jeff, (IGOTIT) and see what he thinks after his swap. Talk to SOGRAND he owns a tranny shop and set Jeff up with all the parts.
My true opinion is your truck is to nice to make a puller. I have seen 200+ thousand mile trucks on ebay with a manual tranny sell for around $5000. The same price as your built tranny or manual swap.
Hell, check this out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...0302628145&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT&viewitem=
Or this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...0359784157&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT&viewitem=
Plus this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...0313722785&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT&viewitem=
Plus this: my local junk yard has 4 of these for between $500 and $350
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dana...c0.m245&_trkparms=72:1171|65:12|39:1|240:1318
Plus a little work equals a running 4wd $2500 2.6 pulling truck. Add injectors turbo, fuel upgrades, and big clutch and you have a 600 rwhp manaul tranny 2.6 puller for under $8000. And you still get to drive your nice truck everyday as you are not working on it.
well E get ur a$$ to work on getting it in the truck and we will be on our ride!! LOL view more pics @ www.myspace.com/strokerboy
everything is comming along nicely gotta go get the new heads friday!
Might as well say it on both sites:
Here from the resident Ford tranny guru:
The 2-3 is a swap shift. This is a special catagory of difficult shift. I believe Ford is the only trans maker in the world that still does swap shifts. Others have put swap shift transmissions in production and then replaced them within a few years. To make a swap shift the TorqShift needs to release the OD clutch to downshift the OD gearset while applying the intermediate clutch to upshift the Simpson planetary gearset. This is an upshift and a downshift occuring at the same time in the same trans. From my experience these two shifts MUST complete within 30 milliseconds of each other or it's going to feel awful. If the OD releases too soon the engine speed will flare. The amount of flare is dependant on how much sooner it completes. If it completes before the intermediate has enough capacity the trans goes back to first gear! Then it has to make a 1-3 shift. A few WOT 1-3 shifts means the trans comes out to replace the intermediate clutch. Been there, done that. If the OD releases after the intermediate comes on you end up in 4th gear (1.09:1 ratio) then downshift back to third gear (1.54:1 ratio.) Either way it's really bad.
You start having some 2 to 4th shifts and causing you to loose alot of rpms and you will hate the 5R just like I do.
For more learning on the 5r you can read his complete post here:
http://powerstrokenation.com/forums/...62&postcount=6
After reading this I would think that you should be able to understand why many less perameters in the low range shifting table will get your tranny to end up with shifting problems.
lol doug you are a funny bastard
Tim, I am the 5R hater.
I love it for a daily driver and for drag racing.
I just hate it for sled pulling, he is trying to build a sled puller so that it why I spoke up. I am not trying to burst anyones bubble. I know of about 4 trucks that are trying to be full time pullers and none can get the tranny to work right. I am just trying to save the OP some time, money and frustration. The tranny is pretty sound mecahnically to well into the 600+ hp range pulling. The ***** is you can't get it to shift right. The tranny is just to smart and will do whatever it wants on its own. No matter where the shifing lever it put. If Ford would have put an RPM table for shifting in low range then we probably wouldn't be having this discussion. The tranny worked great for pulling when my truck was around the 550 hp range. Once we got the truck into what was roughly 600+ range all these shifting issues started showing their ugly head. Then when we took it to a pretty similar build as Rednecks then hard parts starting breaking every pull. I never made one pull last year without breaking something in the drive train. This year I shouldn't break anything, the pulling truck won't have a 5R anymore. Life should be way better!!
Well holy ****. There is a table for RPM shifting. It can be found under Shift/Lock Schedule > 4x4 Low > Scalar in the SCT tuning software. WOT Rpm shift point for all gears. So are we going to continue to have this conversation? There are also tables in there for shifting based on MPH for each gear as well. Just figured I would mention those as well. And they can also be found under Shift/Lock Schedule > 4x4 Low.